Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

news.ycombinator.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

121–130 of 228 posts

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#121

Post by [deleted] »

jb17 wrote: post #107
Blahah wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

It's not quite the same. Apart from the fact that the EDL are not neonazis, over 100 asylum seekers were killed by racists in the last 20 years in Germany. Some of the bigger events were racist riots in Rostock [1] and Hoyerswerda [2], and arson attacks on asylum seeker homes in Solingen [3] and Lubeck. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Rostock-Lichtenhagen [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Hoyerswerda…

[deleted]

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#122

Post by egeozcan »

antocv wrote: post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

As a Turkish who has been working in Germany (Stuttgart) for the last four years, I'd recommend here, Stuttgart, as a pleasant destination. When you find a job which pays a reasonable amount, they can hire you and you get a visa. Don't ever go to Turkey. Don't even enter Turkish soil. You'll be trapped. They started treating Syrians as if they were second class and didn't even keep guiding them, let alone provide shelter and food (or, a job). I'm really ashamed of how Turkey behaved in this crisis. Maybe you'll have better luck in Israel but I have no idea.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#124

Post by level09 »

wheels wrote: post #117
aforarnold wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have saved enough to live 1-2 years. But how long it takes to get Blue card? I do have an Uni degree and how much I can expect with my around 2.5 years experience. Some of the Berlin startup contacted with me regarding my expectation, as why asking you. Thanks.

The tricky thing is probably going to be that I expect the German embassy in Syria is totally swamped. If you can get a visitors' visa for Germany, it would probably be easier to apply for it in person here. When applying in Germany, if everything goes well, you can get a Blue Card with two trips to the foreigners' office -- one to apply and another to pick it up a few weeks later. Presumably you'd be able to get the…

The Germain embassy in Syria has closed long time ago. the closest alternative now to seek the German embassy in Beirut (Lebanon) or Dubai (UAE)

in Beirut, it is extremely difficult if not impossible, the media reported cases where they hit people with a whip on borders: http://bit.ly/17ohTMP

for Dubai you chances are either:

1. a visit visa (need a good job and a letter from your employer)

2. Student visa (need around 8000 Euros in a German bank account - no bank will give you that, especially from outside germany)

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#125

Post by aberlincompany »

We're a Berlin-based tech company that has successfully hired programmers from the Middle East, so we have some experiences with the Blue Card visa process and helping with to relocate to Berlin. The good news is, we're still actively recruiting so please get in touch if we can help you: aberlincompany@gmail.com

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#126

Post by Tichy »

jb17 wrote: post #107
Blahah wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

It's not quite the same. Apart from the fact that the EDL are not neonazis, over 100 asylum seekers were killed by racists in the last 20 years in Germany. Some of the bigger events were racist riots in Rostock [1] and Hoyerswerda [2], and arson attacks on asylum seeker homes in Solingen [3] and Lubeck. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Rostock-Lichtenhagen [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Hoyerswerda…

Do you have a citation for the 100 deaths? The number seems rather high - from the three events you cite there were "only" five deaths (killed in a fire).

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#127

Post by jusben1369 »

level09 wrote: post #114
wheels wrote: post #110

There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…

its not as easy as you picture it, especially for Syrians. I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application. I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wi…

I think it's important to note that these are two very different examples. The OP is specifically discussing the experience and approach for a skilled worker in a job search situation where a country is actively seeking that type of worker. That's entirely different to wanting to move somewhere for further your education in a highly competitive field like medicine.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#128

Post by jusben1369 »

JonnieCache wrote: post #60
Blahah wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

The English Defence League's stature within society can be easily understood by the fact that their homepage is outranked on google by the English Disco Lovers, a group set up specifically to steal their acronym.

Although in all fairness that could say a great deal about the passion the English have for disco that was previously untapped until this group was formed (is it wrong to joke about such a serious topic?)

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#129

Post by jb17 »

Tichy wrote: post #126
jb17 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not quite the same. Apart from the fact that the EDL are not neonazis, over 100 asylum seekers were killed by racists in the last 20 years in Germany. Some of the bigger events were racist riots in Rostock [1] and Hoyerswerda [2], and arson attacks on asylum seeker homes in Solingen [3] and Lubeck. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Rostock-Lichtenhagen [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_of_Hoyerswerda…

Do you have a citation for the 100 deaths? The number seems rather high - from the three events you cite there were "only" five deaths (killed in a fire).

The "Amadeu Antonio Stiftung" has a list [1] of 183 deaths after 1990, where they describe the circumstances of each death. There is also a German wikipedia article that discusses different statistics [2].

Sorry, both sources are in German. Maybe Google translate will help a little?

[1] http://www.mut-gegen-rechte-gewalt.de/news/chronik-der-gewal...

[2] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todesopfer_rechtsextremer_Gewal...

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

#130

Post by peterjancelis »

level09 wrote: post #114
wheels wrote: post #110

There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…

its not as easy as you picture it, especially for Syrians. I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application. I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wi…

There are a ton of embargoes and sanctions against Syria from both the US and the EU.

Don't assume racism when the problem is government.

Post reply on HN