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Berlin is way friendlier than Stockholm IME. London and Stockholm are also some of the most expensivie cities in Europe whereas Berlin is cheap.
Cheap doesn't get you anything if you aren't allowed to work.
Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
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Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#112There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…
Thanks.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Finland is also an option and the market for good developers is hot right now. Drop me a line via Twitter - my username is in my profile - and I can do some intros if you decide to come here. Edit: more info: http://www.migri.fi/asylum_in_finland
I've been trying to come to Finland to study. I became very interested about Finland after I saw some of the the things happening in Aalto University(Startup Saunna, Venture Garage and such). But my Residence Permit application was rejected last year and it was very frustrating. The rejection letter got lost in the mail and for the last six months my communication with the Finnish Immigration has been futile and I st…
There's also been talk of having the Startup Life program (http://startuplife.fi/) take interns from abroad and get them to work for Finnish startups. That may be a good stepping stone for you. I'll ask around about it and get back to you via Twitter.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#114There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…
I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application.
I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wiesbaden.
Now my sister has an official residency visa and she went to open an account in Berlin, but again all banks rejected her request because she is Syrian.
Racism can be really ugly.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I approve this too. Don't go to Germany. As a German citizen I really hate to say this, but recently there has been a hitch in the media where there were protests by neonazi groups in front of asylum homes. Sadly, there are still people who see asylum seekers as potential job-stealers, showing them nothing but hate and would like to throw them all out, regardless of their skills. This is absolutely not the general op…
Especially concerning muslims or people from muslim countries, xenophobia is crossing over to be the majority opinion. Over half of all Germans believe Islam to be a threat. Having an arab/turkish name can disqualify you for most job interviews, regardless of background or skill. There was a bestseller in the past years where someone wanted to rationalize social inequality towards especially turks with the basic idea…
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#116First, see the German Foreign Office's FAQ and visa regulations:
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/EN/Infoservice/FAQ/Uebersicht...
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/EN/EinreiseUndAufenthalt/Visa...
Since many are coming as refugees from Syria, it could be an idea to apply for a regular visa, either for working or studying in Germany. Note that the German mission in Damascus is closed and you have to contact any embassy or mission outside Syria. They suggest using the embassy in Beirut. Problem is that you need to translate all paper stuff to German and I can't estimate the time it takes. Usually it's 2-10 days for visits under 90 days, it can take longer (even months) for visits over 90 days or working permits.
If you come for work, you need an invitation from an employer. But I don't know how long the handling takes with the mission (they have to okay it first), especially since the Damascus mission is down.
Perhaps you qualify for the EU Blue Card (skilled immigrants):
http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/EN/Infoservice/FAQ/ArbeitenLe...
http://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/
If that's an option, look into the conditions for studying in Germany.
Wish you all the best. Tough times.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#117There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…
I have saved enough to live 1-2 years. But how long it takes to get Blue card? I do have an Uni degree and how much I can expect with my around 2.5 years experience. Some of the Berlin startup contacted with me regarding my expectation, as why asking you. Thanks.
When applying in Germany, if everything goes well, you can get a Blue Card with two trips to the foreigners' office -- one to apply and another to pick it up a few weeks later.
Presumably you'd be able to get the visa to seek work pending a Blue Card with a single visit to the foreigners' office.
Salaries are much lower than the US in Berlin, where the range is roughly €35k-75k. With your experience I'd expect you to be in the €40-55k range here.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#118There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…
its not as easy as you picture it, especially for Syrians. I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application. I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wi…
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#119There's a lot of bad information here on Berlin. For context, I'm a non-EU software developer that lives in Berlin and now has permanent residence, as is my girlfriend. Germany is actually one of the easiest countries to get an immigrant work visa for. I would recommend skipping seeking asylum. There's a large enough job market in Berlin for developers that the work visa route will almost certainly be the fastest and…
its not as easy as you picture it, especially for Syrians. I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application. I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wi…
However, things are pretty different when you're applying as a student vs. applying as a software developer. There's going to be a lot more scrutiny of the financial situation of a potential student from a country in crisis than for a skilled worker with a job offer. German politics have shifted in recent years because of a labor shortage to where, at least officially, there's a lot of support for qualified workers to move here.
Now, that doesn't mean that there's no racism, but while I don't have any Syrian friends here, I do have a handful of friends from Iran and I've not heard of them having problems at all with things like setting up bank accounts or managing official stuff.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
its not as easy as you picture it, especially for Syrians. I wanted to send my sister (Syrian) to continue her education in medicine, the German embassy in Syria completely rejected the application. I tried in Dubai, they asked me to open a bank account for her in Germany, all banks refused to do so. I had eventually to find workarounds (through some powerful friends) and I was able finally to open that account in Wi…
Did they give a reason (that she was Syrian)?
if any one is in berlin and can guide me to a bank that won't mind opening an account for a Syrian citizen, I would really appreciate it.
Sadly, this was not the only case we encounter, you can read about a similar story happened to my family here :
http://nidalalhariri.com/post/55999109847/airbnb-racism-how-...