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Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by pary »

Udo wrote: post #52
antocv wrote: post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

> Not Germany, France, Italy, USA, Turkey they all suck As a German, I really have to agree. Don't get trapped here. It's not a very friendly country, especially compared to the scandinavian ones. Xenophobia is also an issue. If I was seeking asylum in order to start a new life somewhere, I'd much rather try for London or Stockholm. Asylum in Germany is more like being in protective custody. Do not do this.

Really Munich/Berlin sucks? Why? IMHO for IT is good. In Munich there are developers from all around the world. I'm not German and I feel good here.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by tehwalrus »

antocv wrote: post #26

Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…

I'd say don't come to England either - Asylum claimants aren't allowed to work while their claim is processed. The claims take of the order of years to process, because there's a big backlog (some claims 5 or 10 years old, if I remember.)

(I won't go into the politics of the UKBA, but suffice to say that the people who are "customer facing" are the ones who shouldn't be allowed anywhere near vulnerable people - and removing them is politically impossible.)

Sweden sounds like a much better bet.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by mkl »

level09 wrote: post #86
ck2 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This of course is assuming the poster isn't female. Do not go to Dubai if you are a woman.

Not really, if you are a woman that would triple your chances of finding Jobs and great life. The amount of respect and importance women get in Dubai is incomparable to any other country.

Rape victims can be jailed for over a year for "extramarital sex". That is not respect. http://www.ibtimes.com/dubai-safe-female-travelers-norwegian...

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by johnvogel »

aforarnold wrote: post #79
grobmeier wrote: post #57

Germany is difficult, but not impossible. As an alternative you could try not to get asylum, but a blue card (EU). Unfortunately you'll need a university degree + yearly incoming in 2013 of 46.400 OR uni degree + special demand in germany (IT is such an area) + yearly income of 36.192. The good thing is, according to my research the income requirement is floating. In other terms, you just need an income which is "usu…

One of the reason for choosing Germany as some of my friends are living there, though I dont know will it help or not. And after the discussion seems its better not to get asylum.

Hey, maybe you try this page: http://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/

Here you can make a quick check if you are eligible of getting a EU Blue Card for Germany: http://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/making-it/quick-check/

This information might be useful for you as well: "By the way: are you still job-hunting and would like to look for a post that corresponds to your qualifications in Germany? In that case, you are entitled to a six-month visa. The condition is that you have a university degree and are able to support yourself while you stay in Germany. Please note that the visa entitling you to hunt for jobs does not entitle you to work. Once you find a suitable post, you can immediately apply for the appropriate residence permit while, of course, remaining in Germany. You can apply for the visa to the German mission abroad in your area. They will tell you exactly which conditions you have to fulfill to be able to apply."

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by OGC »

zurn wrote: post #90
Udo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not Germany, France, Italy, USA, Turkey they all suck As a German, I really have to agree. Don't get trapped here. It's not a very friendly country, especially compared to the scandinavian ones. Xenophobia is also an issue. If I was seeking asylum in order to start a new life somewhere, I'd much rather try for London or Stockholm. Asylum in Germany is more like being in protective custody. Do not do this.

Berlin is way friendlier than Stockholm IME. London and Stockholm are also some of the most expensivie cities in Europe whereas Berlin is cheap.

Cheap doesn't get you anything if you aren't allowed to work.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by opminion »

ck2 wrote: post #77
level09 wrote: post #46

I'm a Syrian hacker myself, and I can suggest you a better option. Go to Dubai, it is easy to get a visit visa first, if you are in damascus you can go through Beirut Airport as the path is still safe between the cities (got many friends coming through that route). then you can try to find a job in Dubai (should be easier as the economy is growing and since you speak the language), I myself know many startups and com…

This of course is assuming the poster isn't female. Do not go to Dubai if you are a woman.

Nothing compared to being in a war zone. Many foreign women live on their own in Dubai, working for multinationals, by choice.

One thing is to boycott it in principle, which either a man or a woman might want to do, and another is to rule it out as an alternative to Syria.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by slowmotiony »

jsilence wrote: post #58
laserbrain wrote: post #31

As an asylum-seeker you are not allowed to work in Germany. You will be “stored” in a camp and are forced to stay there until you can move back to Syria. Better go to a Scandinavian country, where you will be treated as a human beeing.

As a german I am ashamed to read this, because I have to agree. Embarrassing.

I used to live next to a shelter like that, and the thing is a total shithole. Walls destroyed, stinks like hell, major crime around the shelter. A week before I left a 11 year old girl was gang-raped by the asylees. I do not blame germans who decide it's best for them to just send the asylum seekers back to their own countries.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by kmfrk »

Blahah wrote: post #55
the-kenny wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I approve this too. Don't go to Germany. As a German citizen I really hate to say this, but recently there has been a hitch in the media where there were protests by neonazi groups in front of asylum homes. Sadly, there are still people who see asylum seekers as potential job-stealers, showing them nothing but hate and would like to throw them all out, regardless of their skills. This is absolutely not the general op…

The same is true of England. We have the EDL who are a bunch of racist morons. But they are a tiny, despised minority, and certainly shouldn't deter anyone from seeking asylum here.

UKIP, too.

Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)

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Post by Vivtek »

pary wrote: post #91
Udo wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Not Germany, France, Italy, USA, Turkey they all suck As a German, I really have to agree. Don't get trapped here. It's not a very friendly country, especially compared to the scandinavian ones. Xenophobia is also an issue. If I was seeking asylum in order to start a new life somewhere, I'd much rather try for London or Stockholm. Asylum in Germany is more like being in protective custody. Do not do this.

Really Munich/Berlin sucks? Why? IMHO for IT is good. In Munich there are developers from all around the world. I'm not German and I feel good here.

Yeah, but asylum recipients (asylees?) don't get to choose where they are settled. You could end up in Oberunterschwabenhafen and not be allowed to leave the village.

Germany is a bad choice for asylum - I mean, it's great that Germany has a robust system for asylum, because there are people who genuinely need it and benefit from it, but if you're looking for a place to work, this is probably the wrong mechanism.

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