You should try Ireland. There's a plenty of IT jobs and it's easier to come in than the rest of Europe.
Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
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Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#621. Keep your job with the Australian start up.
2. Fly to Malaysia. You don't need visa to enter the country.
3. Once you are in region in a safe place, you can figure out the next step. You will be in the most growing economic zone in the world. Don't go to Europe. Everybody's trying to get to Europe right now.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is going to Turkey from Syria safe? Maybe it makes sense to go to Iran first.
it is safe and easy, no visa required. but Israel is impossible as the countries are at war.
Indeed Israel would be impossible. Turkey seems to be the best option (but would require smuggling probably).
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#64Well, everyone else has given an idea about why you shouldn't go to Berlin.
In case you have a powerful reason for still going there, a few quick points: English is not that common, but is far more common than in the neighboring cities - you probably won't be super comfortable, but you'll survive. If you are on a budget and/or planning to live on whatever money you already have, Berlin is much cheaper than any of the other countries mentioned. There's also a very large Turkish community, in case that means something for you.
Keep in mind all the negative comments mentioned, though. This points are valid when you are a regular citizen, but as a refugee they might not apply.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#65Good luck mate hope things will work out fine for you.
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#66Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…
I approve this too. Don't go to Germany. As a German citizen I really hate to say this, but recently there has been a hitch in the media where there were protests by neonazi groups in front of asylum homes. Sadly, there are still people who see asylum seekers as potential job-stealers, showing them nothing but hate and would like to throw them all out, regardless of their skills. This is absolutely not the general op…
Every county has some sick people. Really not an issue of Germany.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#67Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…
> Not Germany, France, Italy, USA, Turkey they all suck As a German, I really have to agree. Don't get trapped here. It's not a very friendly country, especially compared to the scandinavian ones. Xenophobia is also an issue. If I was seeking asylum in order to start a new life somewhere, I'd much rather try for London or Stockholm. Asylum in Germany is more like being in protective custody. Do not do this.
unfortunately this is still true. I think however there has been rather big improvement in the last decade.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#68I am not sure what would be the "best" next step, but I want to leave Syria asap. Planning to move to Iraq first then I will go for the next destination. As far as discussed seems I dont need asylum because I do have some skill set that can be fit into a job market. But will I be able to live there for couple of years? This is getting crazy here and I dont know how long I will have the internet connection and other to work in my remote job(though my employer is very helpful). Seems next couple of days will make my way for at least next couple of years of my life.
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#69Be careful if you are tempted by Australia, in light of your employer. Refugees are a huge political issue in the current federal election and the two major parties are competing to see who can be the most inhumane. The Australia government is ignoring the UN refugee convention, with refugees without a visa being forcibly, and permanently, exported to Manus Island. The catch 22 is that the Australian government won't hand out a visa if there is any inkling that a person might be a refugee, so the phrase "without a visa" can be replaced with "all". Be cautious of researching refugee issues under your own identity, if you intend to apply for an Australian visa.
If you can get an Australia work visa and make it onto Australian soil, you might be able to circumvent the "no visa" rule. In this case, be wary of the possibility of detention, possibly indefinite, inside Australia. Australian officials will also do their best to keep a new arrival ignorant of their rights, allowing them to be deported, so find out exactly what your rights are and what the procedure and legally correct wording is to claim asylum and activate the UN process.
If considering Australia, perhaps get some advice from an expert, such as Sr Pat Sealey [1]? (Presumably she can be contacted though her order's South Australian address [2].)
[1] http://www.catholicreligiousaustralia.org/index.php/news-a-v...
[2] http://www.sosj.org.au/contact/2col-index.cfm?loadref=6
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Edit: I'll add that it is not clear to me whether the automatic deportation only applies to refugees who arrive by boat, or to any refugee that arrives without a visa.
Further edit: My comment about indefinite detention in Australia applies if you arrive on a work visa then claim asylum, not if you are actually working and have not claimed asylum.
Re: Ask HN: How Can I leave Syria now and get asylum in Europe (Germany)
#70Skip Germany and go to Sweden or England, where people are more than happy to speak English, and there is already many Syrians in Sweden, especially in Sodertalje. Sweden will accept you based on your skills far more easily than Germany, all you need is to find a job, and right now the market is open for a guy of your skills - programmers are in high demand. Look around on various Sweden/Stockholm job posting sites,…
It's very cold in Sweden. May not sound important, but people with genes from warmer countries get all kind of medical problems from the cold weather - joints are especially vulnerable. Also Sweden is the poor neighbor of Norway and Denmark ;-)
Yes, the weather and the cold people are basically the only downside. That and having Carl Bildt in any position of government.