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Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by nofo_cus »

w1ntermute wrote: post #15
nofo_cus wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had this worry as well, in regards to loosing passwords. I still believe writing everything down on a piece of paper can help. I have a little black journal that I carry with me everywhere that has all my passwords in it. Typing them in is the issue when they are longer strings, and mixed symbols. Only issue is protecting that journal.. Hopefully I can eat the pages if things were to arise. Ha

> Only issue is protecting that journal Or losing it.

Haha, yes or loosing it. I think that having a back up would be much needed. It's really too bad to think that we have gotten to this point. Not to be the paranoid one.

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by rsync »

cpursley wrote: post #5

Chicago? Last time I checked, that city is within the jurisdiction of the United States and not immune to national security gag letters. No thanks. Swiss based Wuala.com is a much better solution.

Just sidestep the whole issue and encrypt the contents with a key only you know/possess. Then the choice is simply "who gives me the simplest offsite platform with the fewest layers of abstraction (preferably none) between my data and the underlying filesystem".[1]

Switzerland is not some magic amulet that solves these problems once and for all.

[1] You know who that is.

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by rsync »

tombrossman wrote: post #26
cpursley wrote: post #5

Chicago? Last time I checked, that city is within the jurisdiction of the United States and not immune to national security gag letters. No thanks. Swiss based Wuala.com is a much better solution.

Isn't switching from one closed source backup system to another closed source system overlooking the elephant in the room? These companies are legally required to rat you out when the government comes knocking (some even doing so without demanding a valid warrant, and profiting from LEO requests). SpiderOak has been saying they "expect to make the SpiderOak client code open source in the not-distant future" [1] for y…

"It's the storage version of a 'dumb pipe', maybe we call it 'dumb containers'. Everything else is marketing bullshit..."

Ding!

If only there was such a provider that gave you the dumb pipe version of an offsite filesystem ... it's on the tip of my tongue ...

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by rsync »

newscracker wrote: post #64
tombrossman wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't switching from one closed source backup system to another closed source system overlooking the elephant in the room? These companies are legally required to rat you out when the government comes knocking (some even doing so without demanding a valid warrant, and profiting from LEO requests). SpiderOak has been saying they "expect to make the SpiderOak client code open source in the not-distant future" [1] for y…

I recently created a "petition" for SpiderOak to open source the client (and allow people to build it themselves from source) so that people can let SpiderOak know their thoughts. The petition signatures are sent to SpiderOak. It's still available at the link below if any SpiderOak user (or potential customer) wants to use it to "show the numbers" on a single site (as opposed to scattered comments): http://www.change…

You already have what you want. The source is here:

http://duplicity.nongnu.org/

Actively in development, stable, ready for enterprise use.

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by icebraining »

JimmaDaRustla wrote: post #57

I'm embarking on my own backup solution: For $1.38 USD/month (Ramnode OpenVZ SSD-Cached 128mb RAM VPS with 31% off for life coupon) I get 50gb. I just need to setup a synchronization/encryption schedule. I'm thinking rsync remotely to the server. Not sure on encryption yet. I'm also using the servers as development and minor hosting for myself. It's practically a free storage solution? Am I crazy?

I do something similar, though I use git-annex / assistant to manage the files. It can have remote data repositories using rsync with transparent encryption (using GPG keys).

I also have a bigger drive at home mounted on a raspberry, which stores both the important files (as a second backup) and a lot of unimportant crap.

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by frenger »

rsync wrote: post #102
cpursley wrote: post #5

Chicago? Last time I checked, that city is within the jurisdiction of the United States and not immune to national security gag letters. No thanks. Swiss based Wuala.com is a much better solution.

Just sidestep the whole issue and encrypt the contents with a key only you know/possess. Then the choice is simply "who gives me the simplest offsite platform with the fewest layers of abstraction (preferably none) between my data and the underlying filesystem".[1] Switzerland is not some magic amulet that solves these problems once and for all. [1] You know who that is.

Won't syncing an encrypted file store result in a lot of sync churning each time you modify a file inside, because deltas won't work?

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by UVB-76 »

iterationx wrote: post #30
cpursley wrote: post #5

Chicago? Last time I checked, that city is within the jurisdiction of the United States and not immune to national security gag letters. No thanks. Swiss based Wuala.com is a much better solution.

What about BitSync, it strikes me as good option, but i'm no crypto guy. http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html

Just noticed the iOS app has dropped.

Might take a serious look at it now...

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by da_n »

crocowhile wrote: post #38
iterationx wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about BitSync, it strikes me as good option, but i'm no crypto guy. http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html

Bitsync is very good but it is not quite a dropbox clone as it lacks the ability to retrieve the files via web, it does very limited version control, it has a pretty rigid structure of sync'd folders (for instance you can't sync a subfolder of a folder you are already syncing). Some of those functions can be implemented using owncloud but this latter is still bit buggy and requires you to have server space.

It is not as polished as Dropbox yet, but since this is Hacker News one solution would be to have BitTorrent Sync running on a home server then you could just SSH/sFTP to retrieve files. I have a Raspberry Pi running 24/7 on my home broadband with DDNS + BitTorrent Sync on it.

Re: Why I'm saying goodbye to Dropbox and hello to SpiderOak Hive

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Post by fatbat »

I have only seen one outdated blog post benchmarking upload speed of the various services being suggested here. http://www.proposedsolution.com/downloads/online-storage-ser...

As a Dropbox user, I find that the files get synced very quickly and I wonder if these alternatives (Spideroak/Wuala) being suggested will match that speed. That will be a factor as well to consider.

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