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Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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Best guess is to get the N4 into the pipeline before Apple's next iPhone 5whatever announcement in a month-ish.

I'd guess that's the case, but most of the estimates for the iPhone 5c are like 450-500, which is a slap in the fucking face for anyone that's expecting an affordable device. IMO, if it's a penny over 300, then it's going to be too expensive.

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Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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[I disagree with the case comment, but that's because I find cases annoying and my wife's didn't protect her Nexus 4 worth a darn.] > The thing slides off of pretty much anything This is incredibly true. An anecdote: I was sitting in the waiting room at my dentist's office; I knew I'd have a wait, so I turned on the access point so that I could do some work and set the phone on the seat next to me. 15 seconds later,…

Why do manufacturers insist on making their devices so slippery? My old phone (in dire need of replacement) is all rubberized steel. It doesn't slide off anything, and it's practically indestructible. Why doesn't anyone make a phone like that?

1. sleek devices are more generally-appealing in the store/advertisements 2. it's easier to effect a rugged case on a sleek phone than a sleek case on a rugged phone. 3. oleophobic-style coatings cut down on finger-smear

Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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What I don't really get is to what end are they doing this? Does this help Google, or hurt them - especially now that they have Motorola? Is the bigger over-arching goal here to go around the carriers, no matter what?

I think the first/early of a kind nexus models worked well. They set a standard price/spec range for a high end android. The first couple of nexus phones led to the current generation flagship Androids. The first couple of nexus tablets led to the current generation of Android tablets and discovered a great opening.: 7-8" @ ~$200-$250. They even forced Apple to play catch-up. The Nexus 4 doesn't make sense. What are…

I think the Nexus phones are just developer phones: They're as performant as the other mid-range offerings and get the updates early.

Being as performant helps Android ecosystem by making the developers to develop apps that work well also in other models than just in the high-end models.

Getting the updates earlier helps developers to prepare their software for the new Android version so that when Samsung and other big players release the new version to their phones, the software is already updated. It's like using beta iOS.

So I don't think that Google's trying to make money, at least directly, with Nexus phones/tablets and instead they're just to help developers and Android ecosystem.

Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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It isn't the most powerful Android phone out there, but it does run stock, has regular updates, will run third party ROMs, and is absolutely the best value for an out of contract smart phone, even more so with the $100 price drop. If you're in a T-Mobile coverage area, look at Simple Mobile ($50/month unlimited everything)

Buyer beware, it looks like Simple Mobile doesn't allow tethering. For 70/mo T-Mobile will give you unlimited everything and 500mb of tethering.

The OS allows me to tether without issue.. I've only used it a few times, but it does work. Most of the time I'm in a location on WiFi.

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I use a Nexus 4. I listen to podcasts via bluetooth headset while doing chores; that's several hours on the weekends, and about one hour during weekdays. When I drive, I'm playing podcasts and using Waze (which uses GPS and Wireless networking and the screen is constantly on); that's about 1 hour/day. WiFi is constantly on and I use it to read e-mails and other social messages. I also use it for reading books (Safari…

I'm happy that you haven't had this problem (although without a screen I'm not surprised you get multiple days use from a single charge.) Unfortunately, lots of people are not so fortunate, and I'm one of them. There are a number of known, reported, acknowledged bugs that might or might not be fixed in the latest patch update to 4.3 that cause "Android OS" (actually a partial wakelock held in the kernel) to stop the…

I ran into problems w/ stock Nexus and runaway CPU usage w/ the media process and while I had sworn off ROMs (too much maintenance), but after not being able to fix the problem otherwise, I ended up switching to CM 10.1, which fixed my issues and these days is mature enough that I never have to mess with it. The various custom kernels (Franco Kernel is relatively easy to flash and is focused on increasing battery life) seem to do good jobs at fixing various problems as well.

Still some work to do the initial flashing (wipe'restore), but as someone that hates futzing w/ the devices I'm actually using, I've been happy w/ how low maintenance things have been. If you just want the 4.3 factory image you can it here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occamjwr6...

Alternatively, if you are running stock and don't want to wipe and don't want to wait for the OTAs, you can get them directly:

4.2.2 (JDQ39) -> 4.3 (JWR66V) http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/25/android-4-3-update/

4.3 (JWR66V) -> 4.3 (JWR66Y) http://www.droid-life.com/2013/08/21/download-android-4-3-jw...

BTW, for most issues, I find the CM bug reports have significantly better S/N than official Google or XDA. Here's one on the wifi/ARP: https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-558 and on BT/Wifi: https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-550

Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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Yup. I upgraded to a Nexus 4 from a Nexus S recently and the Nexus 4 is a much nicer device and the Android experience is great: fast, smooth & pretty. It has to be hands down the best value smartphone on the market at this price (it was already great value at $100 more).

Best value of well known brands perhaps. You get various Chinese brand ~5" phones with 1920x1080 resolution, 16GB ROM for that price or less now. And those are typicall dual sim, and take 32GB SD-cards too. Build quality for most of them are probably not as quite high as the Nexus 4, but the one I have at least is very well built.

>Which one do you have?

Good to know some are, which one is that?

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If you buy this phone, get a case for it. The thing slides off of pretty much anything, including apparently flat counter tops. Screen replacements are $130 and take 2 weeks. You won't get the awesome feel of the beveled edges, or the nice solid feeling of a thin but reasonably weighted piece of equipment, but definitely get a case lest you watch in horror as your shiny new phone crashes onto your hard tile bathroom…

I guess everyone's mileage varies, but I've had a nexus 4 almost since launch, without a cover, and have only had one small 'accident' that didn't result in any damage.

That's what I like to hear!!!

I decided against some silly case/screen protector and mine is still looking as it did the day I received it. I see the magic slip feature as a bonus - no need to leave it casually lying around if you know it will fall.

I compared my phone with a friend's iphone - his was bulked out by the obligatory cheap and nasty case. He had the case because he would not be able to afford to replace his phone should it drop. Meanwhile, with the Nexus 4, you can afford two for the price of one lower-resolution screen iphone. Therefore, only when you have smashed one do you 'need' the case...

Re: Google has lowered the price of the Nexus 4 by $100

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Why would you put your phone glass-side-down anyway? Does it still slide about glass-side-up?

Both sides have glass surfaces.

However, the back has had nubs since around March: http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/28/4157304/google-nexus-4-des...
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