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Re: The CODE Keyboard

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These keyboards come with Cherry MX switches. Very hard to find them cheaper than $1 a piece. For a 104 key keyboard that's already over $100 :) In addition to better feel and ergonomics [1], switches also have better maintenance properties. If one goes bad, easy to replace. If something spills, easy to clean. With non-switch keyboards once a key stops working unless it's just a hair blocking the contact, the whole k…

You are one example of people falling into the trap, sadly. $1 a piece is the price you get in the US, and as an individual trying to buy Cherry MX switches from a company that already bought them for a lower price. In china things are different, and when you are a company and buying in bulk, the price can go to as low as $0.2 for a switch. This keyboard is ridiculously overpriced. I am against this because it clearl…

'The guy'?

Interesting choice of words for Jeff Atwood...

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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I read through that page and it doesn't seem to explain how it actually works. With only one roller how do you move the mouse up and down, left and right?

You roll the roller for up/down, move it left/right for ... wait for it ... left/right :) It's really intuitive.

What happens when you reach e.g. the rightmost position of the rod?

A mouse has "infinite" movement, the rod only has infinite vertical movementent, unless I'm missing something.

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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I got a das keyboard at home and at work. Its awesome, and I'd recommend a mechanical to anyone who works on a keyboard for a living. I would never buy anything like this from Atwood, though. His 'expertise' in software, personal attacks on other developers and tedious self-promotion don't really convince me that he's got the know-how to get into hardware production, but rather that he's found a way to make money off…

Yeah, I have 2 DAS keyboards as well. Got em a few years back and they are so much better to type on. Mine have no letters on the keys so people that can't type don't just come to my desk and "Hop on my machine"

I have two Das Keyboards (the Ultimate edition). Amazing typing experience, and the noise scares away distracting colleagues.

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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For a long time I used the Filco tenkeyless with Cherry MX brown key switches, together with an Evoluent vertical mouse. That particular combination was very good for my wrists. Unfortunately, the Filco tenkeyless can be a bit tricky to find (and of course are not backlit).

There's a newer mechanical tenkeyless keyboard that's pretty cheap, the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid: http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-Rapid-Mechanical/dp... It's a "gaming" brand keyboard I guess but it's half the cost of a Filco and comes in 4 different switch types. I just got one, seems pretty nice, although I only use it for gaming and my MS Natural 4000 for typing. Though I wish MS would make a tenkeyless v…

Actually the successor to the 4000 is what you are asking for. http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/sculpt-ergonomic-d...

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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I don't understand what the obsession is with the old IBM Model M type keyboards. I am able to type faster and more accurately on my Apple flat aluminum keyboard that I have ever been able to type on a Model M. On top of that, switching to a flatter keyboard that sits closer to the desk has actually caused any and all pain I used to get while typing to go away. The other thing is I'd miss the extra function keys I ge…

Agree but in my case a ThinkPad T400 keyboard. Quiet with positive feeling and plenty of space between keytops. My model M made my hands hurt and pissed everyone else off after about 5 minutes. Plus it's not practical even with my docking station / desktop setup.

The bad part about the T400 for some people is the ESC key is on the 7th row, where it should be on the 6th on the left of the F1 key.

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Agree but in my case a ThinkPad T400 keyboard. Quiet with positive feeling and plenty of space between keytops. My model M made my hands hurt and pissed everyone else off after about 5 minutes. Plus it's not practical even with my docking station / desktop setup.

The bad part about the T400 for some people is the ESC key is on the 7th row, where it should be on the 6th on the left of the F1 key.

I actually find that better as I'm forever hitting F1 instead of Esc in vim.

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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I don't understand what the obsession is with the old IBM Model M type keyboards. I am able to type faster and more accurately on my Apple flat aluminum keyboard that I have ever been able to type on a Model M. On top of that, switching to a flatter keyboard that sits closer to the desk has actually caused any and all pain I used to get while typing to go away. The other thing is I'd miss the extra function keys I ge…

The difference is pressure - you have to be used to typing softly on newer Apple keyboards or else you'll soon get pain from the low travel. Learning to do so can be very rewarding, since the low travel allows a very fast keypress. Typing softly in general is great for finger pain, and mechanical keyboards allow one to use more force but retract before connecting with the keyboard's backplane (bottoming-out in keyboa…

Cherry MX Red switches require less actuation force than an Apple keyboard. A Red will take 45g of weight to depress, while an Apple seems to be closer to 60g [1].

[1] http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1727025

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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I don't want to take anything away from Jeff, good for him for realizing his dream. But claiming that this is the best keyboard for programmers is an overstatement if I ever heard one. Yes, it's mechanical, yes it has backlit keys and you can do some customizations. But where is everything else? Why are the keys still in the zig-zag formation? Why is the enter key so small? Why is the enter key on the right, where I…

He wants to make some quick money - not release something risky.

Re: The CODE Keyboard

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Not quite, the 'Model M' actually refers to a collection of keyboards, some of which used rubber domes (see column 2 of [1] for a quick reference) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M#Features_by_part_numbe...

Interesting. I have a few IBM non-buckling-spring keyboards, but didn't realize they might also fall under the "Model M" designation.

They're like the Klingons from TOS -- we just don't talk about them.
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