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Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by newnewnew »

knowtheory wrote: post #11
icecreampain wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Making race maps in Europe would get you shot, your family hanged and all your friends deemed social outcasts forever. For example: the Swedish crime prevention board (BRÅ) no longer publish crime statistics containing ethnic background information. They stopped a few years ago (2006) when the PC media found out that africans and arabs were way, way over-represented in all crime categories. This is due to political c…

Or, it could be that the police are overly vigilant, or even racist against non-white Swedes, and arrest and incarcerate them at a rate disproportionate to the actual rate of crime. Stop and Frisk in NYC overwhelmingly targets blacks and latinos, to the point where it's been declared unconstitutional, for example.

Mayor Bloomberg claims that stop and frisk under-targets blacks and hispanics, given the percentage of crime committed[1]. It will be interesting to see if NY becomes Detroit in its absence. NYC is notable for having a lower level of crime than you would expect given its ethnic makeup.

[1] http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/whites_subjected_to_too_m...

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by newnewnew »

Anechoic wrote: post #40
JPKab wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you and I have a different idea on what "Political Correctness" actually is. My view is that many mistake Scientifically Correct from Politically Correct. It is Scientifically Correct to say that there is very little difference, genetically, between Europeans, Asians, Africans, Latin Americans, etc. It also happens to be Politically Correct. However, it is also Scientifically Correct to say that there are hug…

* This is elementary statistics based on data collected by the FBI. If this problem [..] can't be discussed in an honest fashion due to political organizations which will threaten politicians with boycotts/villification/etc due to their refusal to acknowledge inconvenient truths, then the problem will simply continue.* These statistics are discussed in an honest fashion, from Saturday mornings in the barber shop to a…

Mayor Bloomberg claims that stop and frisk is biased against white people[1], compared to the percent of crime they commit.

The black criminal subculture is unique in America. There is no equivalence in other groups. Black males between the age of 14 and 24 make up 1% of the population and commit 27% of all murders. It's shocking and astonishing, and well above what you would predict would be the effect of poverty alone[2].

1 in 3 black American males will serve a jail sentence.

[1] http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/whites_subjected_to_too_m...

[2] http://takimag.com/article/guns_and_race_steve_sailer/print

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by bane »

flexie wrote: post #124
spodek wrote: post #9

Here is the actual map, which you can zoom into, scroll, pan, explore your neighborhood, etc. -- http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html EDIT: Exploring, I see the island I live on -- Manhattan -- has the four main dot colors well represented, though mainly in blocks. The main mixing is between whites and Asians and between blacks and Hispanics. Notably parts of the Upper West Side, East Village/Lower…

Notice how there is often a latino or Asian neighborhood between the white and african american neighborhoods. I'd like to see figures on racial division in the labor market. When I lived in NYC I couldn't help noticing how I would rarely see white people working in stores, on the streets or driving cabs (and if they were white they would be immigrants). Diners were mostly staffed with Greek people, except the guys w…

Interestingly, in the D.C. area, you'll see large areas to the West (Virginia) with Asian/Hispanic mixes, large areas to the East (Maryland) of all racially Black areas, and North (Maryland) non-mixed densely packed blocks nearby for all races.

In the Western areas, there are very large Korean and Latin mixed population areas, so much so that most Korean restaurants are owned by Koreans, but all the cooks and staff are Latin American and the staff speaks Spanish and a little Korean, but no English and the owners are the reverse. In some ways, it's a little like K-Town in LA, known as "Korea town" but with large Hispanic minority groups mixed in. Also the home of the "Bulgogi Taco".

It's a very unexpected integration that somehow works pretty well.

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by Anechoic »

newnewnew wrote: post #152
Anechoic wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* This is elementary statistics based on data collected by the FBI. If this problem [..] can't be discussed in an honest fashion due to political organizations which will threaten politicians with boycotts/villification/etc due to their refusal to acknowledge inconvenient truths, then the problem will simply continue.* These statistics are discussed in an honest fashion, from Saturday mornings in the barber shop to a…

Mayor Bloomberg claims that stop and frisk is biased against white people[1], compared to the percent of crime they commit. The black criminal subculture is unique in America. There is no equivalence in other groups. Black males between the age of 14 and 24 make up 1% of the population and commit 27% of all murders. It's shocking and astonishing, and well above what you would predict would be the effect of poverty al…

This post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by ebspelman »

These guys did an amazing job with the interactive element, but a lot of this is borrowed work! Let's give credit where credit is due:

Bill Rankin posted maps in this exact visual style back in 2009. You can see them (and many other amazing maps he's done) at his blog -- http://www.radicalcartography.net/index.html?chicagodots

Eric Fischer picked up Bill's project and ran with it, composing maps for most of the major US cities with census 2010 data. You can see them all on his Flickr page -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/sets/7215762481267496...

I love great maps, but it's a little disheartening that these precursor projects aren't mentioned anywhere in the article/comments.

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by ebspelman »

spodek wrote: post #9

Here is the actual map, which you can zoom into, scroll, pan, explore your neighborhood, etc. -- http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/index.html EDIT: Exploring, I see the island I live on -- Manhattan -- has the four main dot colors well represented, though mainly in blocks. The main mixing is between whites and Asians and between blacks and Hispanics. Notably parts of the Upper West Side, East Village/Lower…

The actual map is an amazing piece of work, but let's give credit where credit is due!

Bill Rankin posted maps in this exact visual style back in 2009. You can see them (and many other amazing maps he's done) at his blog -- http://www.radicalcartography.net/index.html?chicagodots

Eric Fischer picked up Bill's project and ran with it, composing maps for most of the major US cities with census 2010 data. You can see them all on his Flickr page -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkingsf/sets/7215762481267496....

I love great maps, but it's a little disheartening that these precursor projects aren't mentioned anywhere in the article/comments.

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by jordanb »

rmc wrote: post #115
tsotha wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In fact EU law claims "The European Union rejects theories which attempt to determine the existence of separate human races."[1], and anti-racism law talks about "racial or ethnic origins"[1] Very clever. "We'll deal with the subject by pretending it doesn't exist!"

Oh they don't pretend it doesn't exist. The link is, effectively an EU anti-racism law. It's just that it's not based on biological race , but on "racial or ethnic origin".

Official racial identification in America is based on self-identification. The data from these maps came from people filling out a form saying what race they are. On modern census forms, people are allowed to choose multiple races, and the same holds for ethnic origin.

Some of the comments here seem to suggest that these maps come from measuring craniums and all that.

Fortunately that's one horror that didn't survive the boat trip across the ocean.

Re: Map of America's Racial Segregation

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Post by newnewnew »

Anechoic wrote: post #154
newnewnew wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mayor Bloomberg claims that stop and frisk is biased against white people[1], compared to the percent of crime they commit. The black criminal subculture is unique in America. There is no equivalence in other groups. Black males between the age of 14 and 24 make up 1% of the population and commit 27% of all murders. It's shocking and astonishing, and well above what you would predict would be the effect of poverty al…

This post is a perfect example of what I'm talking about.

Once you get down to the raw statistics they are shocking and very little known. The orthodox explanation for the disparity (white racism) doesn't fit the data and existing policy is to ignore and excuse the social problems rather than trying to fix them.
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