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Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#101

Post by Karunamon »

nutanc wrote: post #47
tylerkahn wrote: post #11

https://developers.google.com/cast/release-notes > Warning: The current Google Cast SDK is a preview SDK intended for development and testing purposes only, not for production apps. Google may change this SDK significantly prior to the official release of the Google Cast SDK. We strongly recommend that you do not publicly distribute any application using this preview SDK, as this preview SDK will no longer be support…

He was not using the SDK. Google went back into their code and changed it just to break an app built by a developer. And, to be fair, Koushik, just alerted people who were planning on buying chromecast because of his app to hold on as his app may never be white listed.

It's a little presumptuous to say why they changed a private (emphasis on PRIVATE) api...

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#102

Post by ajross »

nivla wrote: post #97
Ironlink wrote: post #75

Google has responded to a request for comment from The Verge. We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content. It's still early days for the Google Cast SDK, which we just released in developer preview for early development and testing only. We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and wan…

> We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available. Then why are they offering it in retail stores like best buy? Sucks that you buy something for feature X and few days later an update comes through getting rid of it. Does anyone know how hard is it…

To be glib: the remedy implemented in the market for buying a device in a retail store that doesn't quite do what you want is just to return it and get your $35 back.

Once you get to prices this low, the idea of "service" becomes somewhat different. It does what it does. We won't get traction with Google by whining about this sort of thing.

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#103

Post by zmmmmm »

nivla wrote: post #97
Ironlink wrote: post #75

Google has responded to a request for comment from The Verge. We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content. It's still early days for the Google Cast SDK, which we just released in developer preview for early development and testing only. We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and wan…

> We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available. Then why are they offering it in retail stores like best buy? Sucks that you buy something for feature X and few days later an update comes through getting rid of it. Does anyone know how hard is it…

The SDK is not in Best Buy. The ChromeCast works great for the advertised functions that it comes with.

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#104

Post by zmmmmm »

bru wrote: post #20

The developer of AllCast, Koushik Dutta, gave his side in this reddit comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1l2hez/google_block...

His response is a little bit trite when you read his previous post where he more or less taunts Google about how he reverse engineered the protocol to avoid the whitelist. In some way it almost feels like a setup - perhaps this is all a strategy by Koush to flush Google out on this issue, and I suspect they've been forced to confront it now before they were really ready.

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#105

Post by untog »

nivla wrote: post #97
Ironlink wrote: post #75

Google has responded to a request for comment from The Verge. We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content. It's still early days for the Google Cast SDK, which we just released in developer preview for early development and testing only. We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and wan…

> We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available. Then why are they offering it in retail stores like best buy? Sucks that you buy something for feature X and few days later an update comes through getting rid of it. Does anyone know how hard is it…

Because the product is advertised as working with Netflix and YouTube. And it does.

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#106

Post by [deleted] »

zmmmmm wrote: post #104
bru wrote: post #20

The developer of AllCast, Koushik Dutta, gave his side in this reddit comment: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1l2hez/google_block...

His response is a little bit trite when you read his previous post where he more or less taunts Google about how he reverse engineered the protocol to avoid the whitelist. In some way it almost feels like a setup - perhaps this is all a strategy by Koush to flush Google out on this issue, and I suspect they've been forced to confront it now before they were really ready.

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Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#107

Post by Rabidgremlin »

espeed wrote: post #96

My Chromecast arrived today. I set it up on my living room TV, and to my surprise, my Nexus pad is also presenting the wireless TV in the kitchen as a playback option. Is this a documented feature?

Your wireless TV must support the DIAL protocol around which which Google Cast is built: http://www.dial-multiscreen.org/

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#108

Post by IanCal »

ajross wrote: post #102
nivla wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available. Then why are they offering it in retail stores like best buy? Sucks that you buy something for feature X and few days later an update comes through getting rid of it. Does anyone know how hard is it…

To be glib: the remedy implemented in the market for buying a device in a retail store that doesn't quite do what you want is just to return it and get your $35 back. Once you get to prices this low, the idea of "service" becomes somewhat different. It does what it does. We won't get traction with Google by whining about this sort of thing.

But it does exactly what it was advertised to do, why should you expect money back because you wanted more?

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#109

Post by ajross »

IanCal wrote: post #108
ajross wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be glib: the remedy implemented in the market for buying a device in a retail store that doesn't quite do what you want is just to return it and get your $35 back. Once you get to prices this low, the idea of "service" becomes somewhat different. It does what it does. We won't get traction with Google by whining about this sort of thing.

But it does exactly what it was advertised to do, why should you expect money back because you wanted more?

Again, in retail expecting "money back" because of a mistake in understanding the product is a normal part of doing business. "This shirt doesn't fit me." "Sorry, my husband wanted one in the other color." "I thought I could stream torrented files with it".

The point is that the distinction doesn't matter, so any argument (for or against) predicated on what the buyer expects or what the seller advertised is limited to the ability to refund the purchase price -- it's a dumb argument, basically. It does what it does.

Re: Chromecast update breaks AllCast

#110

Post by dicroce »

I got news for Google. What stopped me from rooting my iPhone was a pretty vibrant app store... that I would lose access to. Given that I already have multiple ways to do Netflix and Youtube on my TV, I'll root my chromecast and run something open that lets me do what I want AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
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