This is the type of crap that pushes a non-muslim over the edge.
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "reacted negatively"?
The standard head shakes of disapproval. Comments like "she should just go through the scanner like everyone else" or "look at her trying to create a problem". After the first couple walked by and had such a reaction, I just ignored it. But then when it repeatedly happened, I wondered why so many people were bothered enough by her decision that they have to stop and make a snarky comment about it.
It could also be out of guilt. It is much more uncomfortable to see someone doing the right thing, when you know that you have chosen the wrong, and easier path. So you have to rationalize it verbally somehow.
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#53Can someone please explain what's wrong with going through the machine? If it means not having my balls squeezed, it sounds pretty good to me.
Consider the following: if that identical machine were in a hospital, it would have been required to go through years of clinical trials to ensure its safety over the long term. The machines they are using are medical equipment. However, because it's in an airport, none of this has happened . Maybe it is safe. Maybe it isn't. It is unproven .
Enjoy your MRIs costing 4 (or maybe 5) digits
Yes, it should be tested for safety, if in one case it looks like a lack of due diligence, in another it looks like an excessive CYA policy with some incentive from tort cases.
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#541. My subtle way of fighting back is trying to keep my face off cameras everyplace I go. I stopped going to stores like Home Depot who have you on a cam the minute you walk in. 2. I'm glad you held out as long as you did.
Why are you singling out Home Depot? Most stores use security cameras these days.
Have you considered compiling a list of stores that have taken a stand against cameras for privacy-conscious people to selectively patronize? That would probably do much more towards your ends than boycotting one store out of the many that use cameras.
(I don't mind the cameras: I've given up on privacy.)
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "reacted negatively"?
Frowns and interrogative looks I guess. When someone does not act as the norm in situations you are expected to, people just reacts negatively, since reacting positively requires to question yourself and make a decision whether you endorse or not a behavior different than yours. It's way more easier to dismiss self questioning and jump to the disapproval of non conform behavior, the one that everyone has already deci…
I similarly find annoying those who realize this negative disapproval act of "non conform behavior" and try to do the opposite. TSA is a giant pain in the ass, let's do something about it to fix it and not worry too much about what its side effects are on people and what it's turning us into.
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#56Airline security measures is not only a threat to civil liberties, it's also a threat to the airline industry. On short distances ( But there are powerful interests that like to keep it this way. Airport owners make money turning airports into shopping malls because travellers are forced to wait there. Governments use airport security as job creation schemes. It's a leech sucking on resources all of us need.
> Airline security measures is not only a threat to civil liberties, it's also a threat to the airline industry. On short distances (Good. Planes are somewhat decent means of transportation on long, rarely travelled distances, but for everything else, both cars and trains are the more ecological, economical and scalable way to get from A to B. Unfortunately, both cars and planes (and, to a lesser extent, trains) are still subsidised to a large extent, masking the real costs of going from A to B in a little tube with wings, thirty other people and so-and-so many litres of kerosine.
If you had to pay the ‘real’ price to use airplanes (i.e. the costs of airports, air traffic control, standard-taxed kerosine, appropriate taxes to revert the ecological destruction caused by airplane traffic etc.), you’d prefer to walk.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's a strip search.
Further to that, once you can no longer travel in your own country without being strip searched it means, as the article puts it, that the terrorists have won. It's a test and a defense of freedom.
The terrorists don't win if people in America lose rights. Wtf?
Terrorists win if they don't turn into terrorists in the first place but live normal happy lives in their countries, maintaining a mild disdain for the decadent west while admiring the nice parts, like freedom and wealth.
The radicalization surely has many roots, one of them being real and imagined pressure from the West. I propose looking into that aspect a bit more. I think we (the West) are not intentionally evil towards the arab/muslim world, but that politics happens and power is applied and these people often get the short end of the deal, leading to resentment and strengthening the crazy mullah's teachings.
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#58IMO This is silly. Yeah I understand why we don't want the NSA looking into all our emails and phonecalls etc...
But its a security check at an airport... This has to be one of the silliest things to get wound up about.
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#59There is an extremely simple solution: leave. I've not lived in the US for almost two years now. I've only had to travel back twice in that time. Meanwhile, in the same time I've visited France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Germany multiple times. None of those travel experiences were nearly as unpleasant or stressful as my two trips to the US. Furthermore, the technology communities that are growing up in these pla…
I agree with the general spirit of your post, however: Amsterdam Schipol has (a lot of) scanning machines as well. Germany has more freedom in certain areas and less freedom in others. (you can't take your empty bottles to the recycling bins on Sunday for example)
of all the things bothering me about Germany, this is not one of them. More the fact that nearly all shops close at 8pm and everything is closed on sunday.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't trust them to not save the images, I don't trust them to not get hacked, and I don't want some random black hat to have images of my body over time.
They are not linked to you or your passport or ID. So there is no 'you' or your 'body' that they can collect over time.
Assuming it's possible to say that two images are from the same person, it would be trivial to work out specifically who that was with any frequent flyer.
You'd just build up a body of images of "person 1" then cross-reference with flight records till you narrow it down to only being one possible person who had been on all those flights...