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I’m Thinking. Please. Be Quiet.

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It's so true. I can do routine work with noise, but not the kind that requires insight. The sad thing is that noise is yet another example of the phenomenon of "the tragedy of the commons." Which means things tend to get noisier and noisier. In fact, what has surprised me most about living in Palo Alto is how noisy it is. You'd think living in the suburbs would at least be quiet. It is on weekends. But the problem wi…

I would work for the rest of my life to pay for a device that turns my ears off temporarily. YC2020?

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It's so true. I can do routine work with noise, but not the kind that requires insight. The sad thing is that noise is yet another example of the phenomenon of "the tragedy of the commons." Which means things tend to get noisier and noisier. In fact, what has surprised me most about living in Palo Alto is how noisy it is. You'd think living in the suburbs would at least be quiet. It is on weekends. But the problem wi…

A mild level of ambient noise is proven to increase creative cognition aka make you a better CREATIVE thinker. Just saying http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/665048 from coffitvity.com

Interesting JSTOR sidenote - before we made Coffitivity, this research was behind a Paywall, and we convinced them to remove it. It was weird timing when it happened, it was kind of emotional to speak to JSTOR at the time, but it's cool we can just link to it now.

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I'm extremely sensitive to sound, and I've been hoping that the the powers that be will eventually come to the realization that open seating plans are highly suboptimal ( http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/08/open-office-layout , for example). I've used a decibel meter on occasion and have observed that my current office sometimes averages 75-80 db. Which, were I in a coffee shop, I could tolerate for some reason[1] much…

> I'm now highly dependent on noise canceling headphones

When you wear them are you listening to music, white/pink noise, etc. or just have them on with nothing playing?

What kinds of noises do they cancel best, and what do they have the most trouble cancelling?

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At this point, I'd gladly take the leaf blower. Car stereo sub-woofers and straight pipe Harleys: Two things that, in my opinion, should be outright outlawed. Live on a street where they are frequent, and your life will be difficult. Live next to someone who tinkers on them incessantly, and your life will be hell. Work is another problem. I wore out my health trying to cope with the "standard environment". (Which, of…

I live near both those things and can put up with the intermittent noise. Leafblowers are an invention of Satan and must be destroyed, preferably along with their owners and operators. They are the epitome of laziness.

I wonder if the majority of the noise can be snuffed by using a battery powered electric motor, or if it's the fans that generate most of the sound...

A Silent leafblower sounds like a potential invention.

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I have a problem with spoken words, not 'noise'. I'm quickly removed from 'The Zone' when my brain starts to unconsciously process speech. Indistinct chatter, environmental noise, loud instrumental music, etc aren't bothersome. In fact my best sessions occur in bars, on public transit, or outside.

me too. I can also be fast asleep and I'll wake right up if people speak to me.

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IIRC Peopleware pointed out a study where they compared two groups of programmers, those working in a quiet environment and those working with music. Given identical assignments, both groups completed it in roughly the same (median) amount of time. However, the assignment was such that there was a "shortcut", i.e. if you thought hard enough about the requirements a much easier solution was possible. Only the programm…

Music/noise isn't the issue so much as lyrics for me (or background phone calls, etc if we're talking about general noise).

same here! i generally listen to classical when writing code or just needing to THINK

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Im in Mountain View and I can tell you that at least half of the problem is shoddy construction. East Coast houses are made to keep out weather and West Coast houses are made not to hurt when they fall on you. And this issue is going to make someone a billionaire in the future. Urbanization is well under way and people are only getting noisier and more crowded. Also, another area for huge improvements is in the legal…

West Coast houses are made not to hurt when they fall on you True, they're junk. In most places it would be smarter ot make them out of brick, and the chances that they'll fall on the occupant are very low indeed. Some of the oldest (pre 1906) houses in SF are made of brick, ditto in Oakland.

As it turns out, brick buildings are much more prone to complete collapse than wood houses during earthquakes, owing to the greater flexibility of wood.

Or are you making the argument that that conventional professional wisdom is incorrect?

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I'm extremely sensitive to sound, and I've been hoping that the the powers that be will eventually come to the realization that open seating plans are highly suboptimal ( http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/08/open-office-layout , for example). I've used a decibel meter on occasion and have observed that my current office sometimes averages 75-80 db. Which, were I in a coffee shop, I could tolerate for some reason[1] much…

> I'm now highly dependent on noise canceling headphones When you wear them are you listening to music, white/pink noise, etc. or just have them on with nothing playing? What kinds of noises do they cancel best, and what do they have the most trouble cancelling?

+1 on the noise canceling headphones. They're best at canceling ambient noises. Human voices around you do tend to somewhat leak in. Thats suppressed too if you put some music on. The other advantage is that you tend to hear music on much lowers volumes since a lot of the background noise is cut out.

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post #76
post #68

It's so true. I can do routine work with noise, but not the kind that requires insight. The sad thing is that noise is yet another example of the phenomenon of "the tragedy of the commons." Which means things tend to get noisier and noisier. In fact, what has surprised me most about living in Palo Alto is how noisy it is. You'd think living in the suburbs would at least be quiet. It is on weekends. But the problem wi…

I would work for the rest of my life to pay for a device that turns my ears off temporarily. YC2020?

I will save you the rest of your life's labour.

http://www.amazon.com/Howard-Leight-MAX-1-plugs-Uncorded/dp/...

You're welcome.

Re: I’m Thinking. Please. Be Quiet.

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post #68

It's so true. I can do routine work with noise, but not the kind that requires insight. The sad thing is that noise is yet another example of the phenomenon of "the tragedy of the commons." Which means things tend to get noisier and noisier. In fact, what has surprised me most about living in Palo Alto is how noisy it is. You'd think living in the suburbs would at least be quiet. It is on weekends. But the problem wi…

Leaf blowers used by homeowners or the people paid to take care of their gardens are one of the most "typically American" and absurd and annoying things. You almost never hear/see these things around Europe, except some similar contraptions use to take care of very large city parks, for which they probably make sense, and even then they are used at reasonable hours.

I mean, using a powered leaf blower to help clean up some fallen leaves off your front yard, sparing you 15 min of your life? Wtf...

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