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You Can't Fix People

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Re: You Can't Fix People

#11
I think that one of the most frustrating aspects of dealing with people (at least for myself, as I'm loathe to extend my experiences to others) is that they fail several key things:

People are not:

* linear time-invariant

* rational

* abstractable

By the first, I mean two things. People do not react proportionally to a change in input--raising your voice slightly or disagreeing somewhat harder may suddenly get you punched in the nose instead of just yelled back at somewhat more, or being even nicer to somebody may not return any change whatsoever. Moreover, the same input applied at a later time may completely change the reaction of a person--a harmless text message repeated at a later date could set a person off.

By the second, I mean that people simply do not follow a logical chain in most situation. Given a set of rules and inputs, you'd think that a person (and even their mental state) would behave predictably; this is obviously false if you've ever done business or sold to consumers or dated.

By the third (possibly the largest), I mean that people can't be reasoned about at a high level. You simply can't ignore or approximate all of the little minutiae that make up that person's background, and if you try you'll find that everything falls to pieces. "Every girl likes compliments" fails, "every customer wants the cheapest goods" fails, every abstraction falls over in contact with the enemy.

EDIT:

People seem to be reacting negatively to the opening statements of the article. When I read it, I interpreted it as the author trying to express the idea that even massively difficult technical problems are still amendable to standard problem-solving techniques, in implicit contrast to "people problems" which the author finds elusive.

A correct reading, I suggest, would be that the opening is more an attempt at example than braggadocio.

Re: You Can't Fix People

#12
post #8

You can't fix people, but you can fix a person. It's the same as saying you can't create a usable UI that allows any possible data to be entered, but you definitely can create a usable UI for some specific data. So the reason you've come to the conclusion that fixing people is impossible is because you're trying to fix everyone at once, and each person needs their own solution. Even better, some people don't even nee…

"you can fix a person."

Sadly false. All you can do is send messages and hope that their internal state matches what they show you, and that what they show you is what you want.

Re: You Can't Fix People

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for an excellent illustration of the sort of negativity that the author is attempting to point out.

To be fair, the first three paragraphs didn't have anything to do with the author's point. They just kept talking about all the wonderful thigs he's capable of doing even if he's not qualified for them. I would have rather had a more fleshed out point about people and a sentence about how the author is a problem solver than so much about what he can do and then some stuff about other people.

The purpose of the opening is to illustrate that technical problems are tractable and that even without the necessary first-hand experience the general methods of problem solving remain fruitful.

I didn't take it as the author bragging--rather, the author was attempting tho show that even these supposedly impossible and ungainly issues can fall to properly-applied methodologies; in short, that technical problems are never hopeless regardless of how outgunned you might think you are at the start.

Re: You Can't Fix People

#20

I think that one of the most frustrating aspects of dealing with people (at least for myself, as I'm loathe to extend my experiences to others) is that they fail several key things: People are not: * linear time-invariant * rational * abstractable By the first, I mean two things. People do not react proportionally to a change in input--raising your voice slightly or disagreeing somewhat harder may suddenly get you pu…

An oversimplification of the human individual into nothing more than an analytic system seems very dystopian to me.

The responsibility of getting to know an INDIVIDUAL for who THEY are is a beautiful and expensive journey. Which is why we can only afford it in a minimalist sense i.e. MAYBE one person to fall in love with, MAYBE a family to love, and MAYBE a handful of friends to truly love as well.

However, if what the author seeks (hidden in an array of emotions) is the key to Utopia then that is a different issue. I am honestly not sure if the authors intentions were honestly stated. I am not sure if the author is truly frustrated with people or himself. I do know that taking this article point blank, word for word, as an objectively true and necessary outlook on life is very dangerous.

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