You have to beat the man to be the man
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You have to beat the man to be the man
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Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#2"instead we see Youtube desperately trying to go Hollywood, offering lucrative contracts to production companies and celebrities to create branded content for the site"
Last time I've saw the TV it had feature films about wild life and a lot of youtube videos about pets but not one "celebrity" in sight.
The word "celebrity" makes me want to vomit. Can we please ignore that and instead disrupt just that part of Hollywood and TV that doesn't make us vomit? And don't touch the other part with 5 meter pole.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#3"instead we see Youtube desperately trying to go Hollywood, offering lucrative contracts to production companies and celebrities to create branded content for the site" Last time I've saw the TV it had feature films about wild life and a lot of youtube videos about pets but not one "celebrity" in sight. The word "celebrity" makes me want to vomit. Can we please ignore that and instead disrupt just that part of Hollyw…
That part that makes all the money?
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#4"instead we see Youtube desperately trying to go Hollywood, offering lucrative contracts to production companies and celebrities to create branded content for the site" Last time I've saw the TV it had feature films about wild life and a lot of youtube videos about pets but not one "celebrity" in sight. The word "celebrity" makes me want to vomit. Can we please ignore that and instead disrupt just that part of Hollyw…
That part that makes all the money?
Bundleware toolbars for IE that fake search engine choice make pretty money, malware that steals money - too. Not a reason to enter this business.
You aren't getting that money until you shrug off what you have left of your moral values, so the only feasible thing is that part that doesn't offer easy money. Instead offering real product and real satisfaction.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#5Charlie Curran's mistake is thinking the entertainment of the future will be just like the entertainment of the past. pg's essay was a challenge to find what the future will look like. He wasn't excluding any possibility. He wasn't predicting the demise of every single aspect of Hollywood, or even, of any specific aspect of Hollywood
pg was just pointing out that entertainment will continue to evolve, that change is the only thing that's for sure, and that like all industries, Hollywood is not immune to outside challenges.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#6When I clicked on this link the anchor text was "Why Silicon Valley will never beat Hollywood" (or something like that). When I came back, it had changed to "You have to beat the man to be the man," which is the title of the piece. But IMHO the original title (presumably the one written by the submitter) was much better and more descriptive. I don't think I would have clicked on this link with the current title.
There seems to be a lot of this headline-rewriting going on on HN nowadays. IMO it's going a little too far.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#7When I clicked on this link the anchor text was "Why Silicon Valley will never beat Hollywood" (or something like that). When I came back, it had changed to "You have to beat the man to be the man," which is the title of the piece. But IMHO the original title (presumably the one written by the submitter) was much better and more descriptive. I don't think I would have clicked on this link with the current title. Ther…
Also, the title on the front page is different from the title in the comments. I don't think I've seen this before, but maybe I'm just not very observant.
edit: They're the same now. Confused.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
That part that makes all the money?
Bundleware toolbars for IE that fake search engine choice make pretty money, malware that steals money - too. Not a reason to enter this business. You aren't getting that money until you shrug off what you have left of your moral values, so the only feasible thing is that part that doesn't offer easy money. Instead offering real product and real satisfaction.
>Bundleware toolbars for IE that fake search engine choice make pretty money, malware that steals money - too. Not a reason to enter this business.
Paul Graham disagrees: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5059806
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#9"the basic formula of pairing known stars with compelling stories has not and will not change"
Didn't it change with the advent of the modern TV Shows?
How big were Schwimmer, Laurie or Cranston as stars before their show made a hit? Laurie was locally known but not that much.
With modern show, you have select good actors for their role, not stars from an universal pool, and that's what changed.
And I fail to name terribly many films in the last ten years that can be compared to the best TV shows which are a plenty.
Re: You have to beat the man to be the man
#10There are several reasons why Y combinator is unlikely to kill hollywood.
The Author touches on part of the problem. To make a good movie you need:
1) an excellent script (if it reads like shit, its going to look worse, if the pitch is "its like X but...." its a fail)
2) a significant amount of captial ($1million)
3) quality actors
4) ridiculously good organisation skills (you'll be organising 40+ people hundreds and thousands of pounds worth of equipment for around 40 days (or a lot more))
that's just first part. You then need to wrangle all the footage, and massage it into a cohesive and flowing narrative, something most "film" buffs fail cataclysmically ally at. (why do you think most youtube videos are only 3 minutes top?)
Once you've spent three years of your life doing that, you then need to get your movie seen. That means persuading people who think you are worse than dogshit to watch a movie that they really couldn't care about, much less actually pay you for.
This will take you the next 3-6 years. It also costs a lot.