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Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by geoka »

shiranaihito wrote: post #17
geoka wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use conkeror--which is a vimperator "clone" based on xulrunner, with emacs-like keybindings and commands. "Is it problematic when a site has graphics for navigation?" It depends. Most of the time it's still a link, so the browser has no problem identifying and highlighting it as such. If it's something fancy (image map? JS magic?)--it can be a problem. Fortunately, such sites are not common. "Do you cycle through l…

As for the efficiency--again, it probably depends on the "mode" I am in (mouse is easier for plain surfing) Besides plain, what other kind of surfing is there? Or are you talking about the differences between using those keyboard-only WMs and normal ones? As far as I know, using only the keyboard for some task is usually about efficiency gains, but in the case of surfing, I'm obviously not sure there's much to be gai…

"Besides plain, what other kind of surfing is there?"

Working with online documentation while coding, for example, is much more efficient for me with conkeror. Or looking up some piece of information while I am typing a reply to a HN comment :)

On the other hand, it's an overkill for me to keep both my hands on the keyboard while I am reading a nytimes story or following links at leisure.

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by mtoledo »

I only browse using the keyboard with firefox+mouseless browsing. It's got to a point where its faster than the mouse in 80% of the situations, and acceptable in other 15% of the situations. In 5% of the situations I still have to grab the mouse, which is annoying.

I wonder if any of those other browsers would fix it for me. But conkeror's website, which seems to be my favorite since I'm an emacs user, looks offline right now.

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by shiranaihito »

rtra wrote: post #20
shiranaihito wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As for the efficiency--again, it probably depends on the "mode" I am in (mouse is easier for plain surfing) Besides plain, what other kind of surfing is there? Or are you talking about the differences between using those keyboard-only WMs and normal ones? As far as I know, using only the keyboard for some task is usually about efficiency gains, but in the case of surfing, I'm obviously not sure there's much to be gai…

Some of us can't use the mouse for health reasons.

If it's RSI, I may be able to offer some advice!

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by shiranaihito »

geoka wrote: post #21
shiranaihito wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As for the efficiency--again, it probably depends on the "mode" I am in (mouse is easier for plain surfing) Besides plain, what other kind of surfing is there? Or are you talking about the differences between using those keyboard-only WMs and normal ones? As far as I know, using only the keyboard for some task is usually about efficiency gains, but in the case of surfing, I'm obviously not sure there's much to be gai…

"Besides plain, what other kind of surfing is there?" Working with online documentation while coding, for example, is much more efficient for me with conkeror. Or looking up some piece of information while I am typing a reply to a HN comment :) On the other hand, it's an overkill for me to keep both my hands on the keyboard while I am reading a nytimes story or following links at leisure.

Working with online documentation while coding, for example, is much more efficient for me with conkeror. Or looking up some piece of information while I am typing a reply to a HN comment :)

Fair enough :)

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by riobard »

I'm using Vimperator, but got a problem: how to escape from embedded Flash once it gets keyboard focus? Because once the focus is in some embedded objects, I can no longer control Vimperator unless click the mouse to move the focus back to the page. Very annoying ...

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by shiranaihito »

shiranaihito wrote: post #25
rtra wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of us can't use the mouse for health reasons.

If it's RSI, I may be able to offer some advice!

No seriously..

My wrists were sore for around 1,5 years because of bad ergonomy.

Re: Minimalistic (vim-like) web browser based on Webkit

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Post by thesnowdog »

geoka wrote: post #16
shiranaihito wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much better than a mouse? Could you elaborate? Is it problematic when a site has graphics for navigation? Do you cycle through links and then choose the one you wanted, or is there a more direct way of accessing them? Is it really faster than using a mouse? Do you need two hands to be efficient, and if so, wouldn't you rather be efficient with only one hand, for example using Opera's mouse gestures?

I use conkeror--which is a vimperator "clone" based on xulrunner, with emacs-like keybindings and commands. "Is it problematic when a site has graphics for navigation?" It depends. Most of the time it's still a link, so the browser has no problem identifying and highlighting it as such. If it's something fancy (image map? JS magic?)--it can be a problem. Fortunately, such sites are not common. "Do you cycle through l…

To be fair Conkeror, the FF extension, came first and while there's certainly been a two-way exchange of ideas since it's unlikely that Vimperator would exist without the pioneering work done on Conkeror.
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