Does any other company get so many straight press releases consistently voted up on HN?
BTW this is old, the referenced bills did not pass.
Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
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Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk clearly wants Tesla to sell all of their products themselves ala Apple. His stated reason was that car dealer's cannot properly advertise the benefits of electric cars without undermining their gasoline car business and so he doesn't trust them to properly sell the car.
That does not explain away others who would relish the idea of setting up an electric only dealership. He is using an pretty damn thin excuse to not allow others to sell the cars. Sorry, but there are many other like minded individuals who would very much sell the cars the way he wants, they may even improve on the methods. Local dealers for electrics would provide the benefit of tighter integration with supporting b…
The issue is they would have to give the dealer a cut- direct to consumer they can keep the price lower and the margin higher.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
like Airbnb getting sued in New York? or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? ...
>or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? Forgive me for not knowing all the details, but what is the extortion in the fact that Taxi co's have to pay fees that Uber and Lyft don't? I'm guessing there is more to this than I know.
Some people have a hard time grasping the idea that you can be against unnecessary, foolish laws without being for companies that flout them.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
like Airbnb getting sued in New York? or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? ...
>or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? Forgive me for not knowing all the details, but what is the extortion in the fact that Taxi co's have to pay fees that Uber and Lyft don't? I'm guessing there is more to this than I know.
Extortion is perhaps not the most accurate word, going strictly by its definition. Anyway, the objection isn't to taxation of taxis, but rather to outright excluding new entrants to the taxi market. Which many cities do, via the medallion system.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#45Does any other company get so many straight press releases consistently voted up on HN? BTW this is old, the referenced bills did not pass.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#46"Prior to the filing deadline, Tesla Motors reached out to Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) and Rep. Eddie Rodriguez (D-Austin) who agreed to file bills on our behalf. These bills would permit U.S.-based manufacturers of 100% electric- or battery-powered vehicles to sell directly to Texas consumers." A silly band-aid to ridiculous legislation.
The band-aid is easier to pass.
That somehow sounds even worse.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#47I thought Texas was all about reducing regulations and welcoming new businesses.
ha ha
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#48Ahh, The American Way (TM) When a competitor offers a better product that you, make what they are doing illegal rather than competing with them. Stopping innovation in America since the 70s.
Why are you mischaracterizing problems due to a Texas state law as "The American Way (TM)"?
Tesla does not have these problems in other states such as California.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#49I thought Texas was all about reducing regulations and welcoming new businesses.
That's the image they portray. However, it's simply not true in this case.
Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas
#50There's gotta be a simple, legal workaround to require franchising. Here's how I could see it happening:
1. Create Company X.
2. Sell exclusive USA franchising rights to Company X.
3. Acquire Company X, rename the new subsidiary as 'Tesla Franchising'.
4. ???
5. Profit
Edit: Thanks for the unwarranted down vote without a comment... I didn't know that big oil is trolling HN now.
From the article, they're already doing this with their service departments:
Customers in need of warranty service must call the Tesla Service to speak to someone at Tesla Motors in California. Based on their over-the-phone explanation, a Tesla Service employee determines whether repair work is needed/warranted. If so, the customer is sent to have the work sub-contracted by a local subsidiary, Tesla Motors TX. The local repair centers – currently in Austin and Houston – cannot advertise that they do warranty repairs nor can they discuss any additional repair needs or concerns with the customer. Tesla Motors TX then bills Texas Motors, Inc. for the work. If customers have additional warranty concerns, Tesla Motors TX cannot discuss them with the customer – the customer would need to call Tesla Motors, Inc. back and go through the process again.