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Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by pqs »

dhoe wrote: post #20
pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

The Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition, which has Ubuntu preinstalled, is as close to "Ubuntu Air" as it gets. Don't like it?

By the way, how about battery life?

According to this article, it has 5h of battery life. http://www.wired.com/reviews/2013/07/dell-xps-linux/

This is half of the battery life of a Macbook Air!

If they sold a similar laptop with a Haswell processor ...

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by davidw »

nicholassmith wrote: post #40
davidw wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like a nice machine, generally, but then we get to the screen size: 1600x900. Pathetic. The new Nexus 7, for $230, has more pixels .

Do you sit closer to your laptop than to your phone? I know in general I don't, and whilst I can certainly appreciate the quality inherent in a very high resolution screen I'm not clamouring for one. I got a MBA 13" over a MBPr as I thought the screen difference wasn't high enough for the tradeoffs.

I currently have a laptop that does 1900x1200, that I purchased a few years back. I don't want anything less than that if at all possible: I can keep a lot of code on the screen at the same time.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by pmelendez »

pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

There is a big motivation to go to mobile since that market is still growing and laptop's market stopped the growth a while ago.

Also, keep in mind that the edge want to replace the laptop in most situations. And finally, they failed to gather funds for this, but they didn't fail producing it, so your comment about being deluded doesn't make a valid comparison.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by methodin »

pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

Hasn't linux benefited by the backport of Android code?

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by vassy »

izacus wrote: post #19
pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

sigh Not this FUD again. Ubuntu will work well on pretty much any single-graphics Ultrabook currently on the market. Can we leave the wifi problems complaints in previous decade where they belong?

I paid £1800 for the Lenovo X1 Carbon because I'd thought it was the best ultrabook at that time. Installing Ubuntu on it resulted in problems with: volume and brightness settings, trackpad, hibernation, fingerprint reader, mounting my NAS drive.

I don't have it anymore because I got robbed. Although I'm a Linux enthusiast, I ended up replacing it with the 2013 Macbook Air, because I don't want to pay a premium price for a product that I can't use 100%.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by Zigurd »

pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

With Haswell it should become easier to find a suitable laptop for Ubuntu. I ended up getting a nice enough, and inexpensive Sony VIAO because it has only Intel HD graphics. Now that Intel's GPU has much higher performance, that configuration should become more common with high-end CPUs, and the new Intel GPUs will drive 4k monitors.

Your wifi card won't be a problem. It hasn't been for years now.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by mistercow »

megablast wrote: post #30
mistercow wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think sometimes people don't realize that the two instances of "king" in the saying refer to different people. They therefore assume that "long live the king" is an idiom for "RIP the king" or similar. The Lion King probably didn't help matters with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctJ9jZ-_fFc

Taken that way, it is very strange for people to wish a long life to the king who just died.

People are used to idioms they don't understand though. They're much like words in that we learn their meaning from context, and the etymological content is more of a subconscious mnemonic than something we explicitly pay attention to. Sort of like being surprised when you first notice that "disintegrate" is "dis- integrate".

This is particularly common with idioms because they often to get truncated over time so that their meaning is harder to extract from the content. If you've never heard "the pot calling the kettle black", but you've heard "pot: meet kettle", you'll likely get the meaning from context, and you'll have no idea what the connection is between hypocrisy, pots, and kettles.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by pekk »

pqs wrote: post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

FUD. If you are uncomfortable deciding your own hardware, you can buy from vendors which explicitly support Ubuntu like System76

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by papaf »

vassy wrote: post #45
izacus wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sigh Not this FUD again. Ubuntu will work well on pretty much any single-graphics Ultrabook currently on the market. Can we leave the wifi problems complaints in previous decade where they belong?

I paid £1800 for the Lenovo X1 Carbon because I'd thought it was the best ultrabook at that time. Installing Ubuntu on it resulted in problems with: volume and brightness settings, trackpad, hibernation, fingerprint reader, mounting my NAS drive. I don't have it anymore because I got robbed. Although I'm a Linux enthusiast, I ended up replacing it with the 2013 Macbook Air, because I don't want to pay a premium price…

Quote from an Ubuntu user with an X1:

The Lenovo X1 Carbon is a dream for Linux. If you want to run Linux on an ultrabook, I cannot recommend the Carbon more highly.

http://www.inaccuratedesign.com/2012/10/22/Linux-on-the-X1-C...

Fedora is also OK apparently: http://sysconfig.org.uk/2013/05/fedora-18-on-lenovo-thinkpad...

Arch too: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Post by duskwuff »

coob wrote: post #27
teejaygreen wrote: post #13

"Since the campaign didn't meet its funding requirement, refunds will be processed to backers within five business days, Canonical said." Do you think Indiegogo made interest on that 12 million dollars over the past month? If so, how much?

I thought it was just an authorisation on the card, I didn't think they took the actual money?

Authorizations have a limited lifespan, and it's quite a bit shorter than crowdfunding sites would need.
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