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Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by kunil »

igravious wrote: post #57
zx2c4 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise. My N950 has an incredible keyboard -- it even have a proper control key -- but its operating system is completely dead in the water. There don't seem to be any modern Android phones that run on GSM and have physical keyboards. The Phonon Q has its SIM card soldered to the phone. I just ordered a Galaxy S Relay off ebay, which is last year's hardware and its physical keyboard is supposed to be kind of bad an…

It seems like the percentage of people who want a physical keyboard on their phones is good deal smaller than those who don't. So it makes sense to cater to the majority initially and then if that's successful to bring out a physical keyboard variant. There's no point in saying that you would have bought the Edge if only it had a physical keyboard. You are not the target market. Why don't you make a HN poll and find…

How about those phones that can slide and open to show a physical keyboard, probably too costly and error prone I guess

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by quail »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #8

I liked the idea, but I refuse to use a phone without a landscape physical keyboard. Virtual keyboards are awful. All of them. They take too much screen real state away from me, yet they're small enough to make me struggle when trying to write something complex like my secure password ... Swype and similar options are not an option either, because I write in different languages, and no matter how good the text predic…

Blackberry user by chance? I was checking out the Blackberry Q5 and it has a roomy keyboard, along with a touchscreen OS.

I've never had an issue with virtual keyboards, and in fact preferred them, but the Q5 has changed my thinking.

Q5: http://global.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-q5.html

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by Aldo_MX »

quail wrote: post #62
Aldo_MX wrote: post #8

I liked the idea, but I refuse to use a phone without a landscape physical keyboard. Virtual keyboards are awful. All of them. They take too much screen real state away from me, yet they're small enough to make me struggle when trying to write something complex like my secure password ... Swype and similar options are not an option either, because I write in different languages, and no matter how good the text predic…

Blackberry user by chance? I was checking out the Blackberry Q5 and it has a roomy keyboard, along with a touchscreen OS. I've never had an issue with virtual keyboards, and in fact preferred them, but the Q5 has changed my thinking. Q5: http://global.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-q5.html

I am genetically designed to never use a Blackberry.

Not joking, my hands and fingers are big... I can print a document using a single hand in a keyboard that doesn't have a Right Ctrl key using my thumb and pinky.

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by reidrac »

eb0la wrote: post #47
fetbaffe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox OS!

I seriously doubt FFOS can do something like the Ubuntu Edge in the next 2-3 commercial cycles. Canonical has been working for years on polishing a ARM distribution, and FFOS is just starting now and the amount of work needed to use a FFOS device as a computer is (today) non-trivial; plus you'll need some support from at least a hardware vendor, and carrier interested in selling the device/having the device in its ow…

Not sure about this. Sure FFOS isn't perfect, but I have a ZTE Open in my desk right now... for me that's way ahead of Ubuntu Edge.

It's too soon to tell, but looks like FFOS is happening. Right now.

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by inthewind »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #8

I liked the idea, but I refuse to use a phone without a landscape physical keyboard. Virtual keyboards are awful. All of them. They take too much screen real state away from me, yet they're small enough to make me struggle when trying to write something complex like my secure password ... Swype and similar options are not an option either, because I write in different languages, and no matter how good the text predic…

For all the other benefits of the phone, I'd live with that. At least you 'can in theory' dock the phone and then use a 'standard' keyboard.

Placing a physical keyboard on the device would probably make it weaker and thicker/bigger.

Those that like typing on physical keyboard give MessagEase a thumbs up for touch input.

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by inthewind »

AlexanderDhoore wrote: post #9
primelens wrote: post #5

Ah well - at least they tried and who knows, maybe not having to take on the hassle of hardware design and production will lead to a better Ubuntu release for existing top-end phones.

And let's not forget that there's also a small linux desktop distro called Ubuntu. Maybe they could try and improve that? But that's just crazy right? Who still uses a laptop these days? Nobody!

You could try:

print count(nsaQuery.region('global').device('laptop').activity('-24hr'))

;)

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by fetbaffe »

eb0la wrote: post #47
fetbaffe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox OS!

I seriously doubt FFOS can do something like the Ubuntu Edge in the next 2-3 commercial cycles. Canonical has been working for years on polishing a ARM distribution, and FFOS is just starting now and the amount of work needed to use a FFOS device as a computer is (today) non-trivial; plus you'll need some support from at least a hardware vendor, and carrier interested in selling the device/having the device in its ow…

I'm looking into doing a preorder of Geeksphone Peak+, which is their third model.

Sure Geeksphone is more of a developer phone, but you also have ZTE Open as reidrac mentioned.

Can I by a phone with Ubuntu Touch preinstalled?

If Ubuntu Touch can make it, even better! I don't want that other Android crap.

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by Semaphor »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #8

I liked the idea, but I refuse to use a phone without a landscape physical keyboard. Virtual keyboards are awful. All of them. They take too much screen real state away from me, yet they're small enough to make me struggle when trying to write something complex like my secure password ... Swype and similar options are not an option either, because I write in different languages, and no matter how good the text predic…

Considering the limited options I was afraid what I'd have to choose from after my HTC Desire Z (T-Mobile G2 in the US IIRC). But since Swiftkey I enjoy typing on a screen. And I regularly write in English and German, often in the same message. It's faster and with less errors than typing on a physical (mobile) keyboard. The only gripe I have left is the lack of space but there is probably nothing one can do there.

But then I'm only writing short messages on my phone and nothing longer than maybe 2 paragraphs.

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by shurcooL »

danpalmer wrote: post #6
shurcooL wrote: post #3

I asked a few developer-related questions about it in multiple places, but never got any answers. I might've bought it otherwise.

What did you ask? I've been trying some Ubuntu Touch development recently and I found documentation for it to be ok.

Questions like these. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6181597

Re: Ubuntu Edge fails to raise goal

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Post by GFischer »

kunil wrote: post #61
igravious wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the percentage of people who want a physical keyboard on their phones is good deal smaller than those who don't. So it makes sense to cater to the majority initially and then if that's successful to bring out a physical keyboard variant. There's no point in saying that you would have bought the Edge if only it had a physical keyboard. You are not the target market. Why don't you make a HN poll and find…

How about those phones that can slide and open to show a physical keyboard, probably too costly and error prone I guess

I have a Nokia N86, I love it, and use it alongside my android "phone" (which is basically a tablet for my use case).

My ideal design would be an Android-powered Blackberry Torch format (with a slightly larger screen).

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