I will never understand why would anyone eat the same food everyday. Eating is fun, more fun than anything i know of.
> Eating is fun, more fun than anything i know of.
I think you're doing sex wrong.
Soylent: What Happened When I Stopped Eating For 2 Weeks
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#292Earlier quoted context omitted.
>to people who didn't know there were existing products Would you care to link to where people can purchase these existing products? It seems that every time someone makes that claim they are either referring to medical products not available to the public, or to crap like MET-Rx that doesn't provide a complete, balanced micro nutrient profile.
> they are either referring to medical products Very few of these products are prescription only or even pharmacy only products. It is possible to persuade companies to sell to individuals. To answer your question - Ensure brand includes complete meal replacement products; the Fortisip range also includes suitable products. There are a bunch of others but these are easiest to obtain. Most companies are very careful a…
>Would you care to link to where people can purchase these existing products?
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#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they are either referring to medical products Very few of these products are prescription only or even pharmacy only products. It is possible to persuade companies to sell to individuals. To answer your question - Ensure brand includes complete meal replacement products; the Fortisip range also includes suitable products. There are a bunch of others but these are easiest to obtain. Most companies are very careful a…
>Would you care to link to where people can purchase these existing products?
Did you even try google?
Enshure: http://ensure.com/products/ensure-complete-shakes click buy online from the product page.
Fortisip: http://www.fortisipdrink.co.uk/. Again, click the buy online link from there homepage. (Though I think this is a UK brand.)
PS: You can find a wide product range at http://abbottstore.com/
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
Requires cooking, not quick.
It doesn't require much attention though. Boil kettle, drop eggs into water on the stove, leave for 5 minutes. Put steaks on a foreman grill, take off when done. I'm pretty sure I can do this with less than 60 seconds of attentive time, the rest can be spent catching up on tech stories, pull requests or whatever. Frying it all would be even easier, too. Heat pan, put steak and eggs in, leave for a couple of minutes.…
You've missed the point of fast. It's not about attentive time, it's about total time and not cooking. What you suggest fails on all counts. People who want fast want it because they're in a hurry, often because they're running late for something. They don't have time to boil water or prep a steak. Love my foreman, but it takes a solid 4 minutes cook time and 10 minutes rest time to make a proper steak, that's not fast.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can do all that and be 'mildly out of shape'. It depends on what your model is. Compared to the average person, he's more fit, but the average person is rather unfit, so it's a poor comparison. I think 'out of shape' out to be an objective measure, not a relative measure.
>I think 'out of shape' out to be an objective And you would be wrong. It's completely subjective. There is no quantifiable definition of 'in shape' other than fat %.
VO2 max is another quantifiable measure of physical fitness:
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#296Earlier quoted context omitted.
Requires cooking, not quick.
When is it ever healthy to rush preparing and eating your meals on a regular basis?
That's rather the point of people wanting something like Soilent to begin with, people often don't want to take the time necessary to make proper healthy food. It shouldn't be so much work to fuel up.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true, from both the "for" and "against sides". Anyone who things that only happens on one of the sides should check their confirmation bias. And no, this is not an "every opinion deserves equal airtime" claim. The vast majority of nutrition and health experts draw on a mix of science, pseudo science and superstition, and assume it is all science. (Quick check: Think salt intake causes hypertension? That dietar…
Yes, you are making a "every opinion deserves equal airtime" claim. When someone who isn't trained at all in a field claims to have made a revolutionary advance in that field, the rational response for a non-subject-matter-expert member of the public is deep skepticism. The discovery might indeed be revolutionary, but the way we find out is by running proper scientific tests on it, not by pioneering the revolution. T…
Let's keep one thing that the poster you are replying to had in mind:
Human nutritional science is HORRIBLE from a "meta-science" perspective. Gary Taubes, who admittedly is a bit of a one trick pony, has written extensively on the failings of the nutritional scientific community to adequately fund real, controlled studies that test out poorly performing hypothesies that have been taken as gospel.
Eggs are good for you now, but a few years ago every doctor was saying they were bad for you, along with butter. Why is that? Because nutritional science SUCKS. The general public thinks that eating a serving of bacon is worse for their body than eating a serving of raisin bran. The actual data shows that the opposite is true. The fault for this lies 100% with the nutritional science community in the United States.
As a person who fell victim to their bullshit for years until I tried the Atkins diet (tons of green vegetables, meat, minimal carbs/sugar) and subsequently lost weight, improved my blood profile (HDL went up, triglycerides went down, LDL decreased slightly) and all the while going against the conventional wisdom on diet. I tried low fat, I tried vegetarian/vegan, none of it worked. It was scientifically unproven bullshit due to a flawed scientific community embedded in the study of human nutrition.
I'm not saying reject the scientific credentials of individuals in the community. I'm saying reject the establishment. They have repeatedly failed the public, so fuck em.
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#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
When is it ever healthy to rush preparing and eating your meals on a regular basis?
That's rather the point of people wanting something like Soilent to begin with, people often don't want to take the time necessary to make proper healthy food. It shouldn't be so much work to fuel up.
My point is that taking the time necessary to make (and eat) proper healthy food is a large part of what makes it healthy.
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#299I just posted this to Tim's Blog: --------------------- It seems probable that soylent is better than much of the manufactured food on the market. It also seems unlikely that soylent is better than quality whole food. I take Nassim Taleb's approach. We don’t know what we don’t know about food. I’d like to address two of Shane’s points. I'm listing the objections Shane raises, then his reply: Shane's first point: Obje…
You seem to have some kind of obsession with whole foods.
If it's true that we don't know what we don't know, then how did you arrive at the whole foods conclusion? What's the difference between whole foods and Soylent?
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>Would you care to link to where people can purchase these existing products?
Did you even try google? Enshure: http://ensure.com/products/ensure-complete-shakes click buy online from the product page. Fortisip: http://www.fortisipdrink.co.uk/ . Again, click the buy online link from there homepage. (Though I think this is a UK brand.) PS: You can find a wide product range at http://abbottstore.com/
Did you try reading the thread you are attempting to participate in? The whole problem is vaguely claiming that there's already products that cover the use case of soylent, but not giving a specific. None of the products you linked to provide 100% of known essential nutrients. None of them are intended to be used as a replacement for food, and none of them can be used as such with long term safety. It is absurd to see people bitching about how unsafe soylent is while claiming that products we 100% for certain know are not nutritionally complete already make soylent useless.