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Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

#11

Very sad. So the guys who murdered innocents in another country using machine guns sitting on top of a helicopter are yet to be tried. While the guys who stood up for humanity and true spirit of serving forces for good is sentenced 35 years. And I know a lot of people would troll me on this opinion itself.

I can go kill a few babies in cold blood and get out in less then 10. But releasing documents that are private... well now that's just not very nice.

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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"He faced up to 90 years in prison." I think that, all things considered, this is the best possible outcome (realistically). There was no way he'd walk, because he did break laws. In this instance those laws were broken to get information out to the public, but one can easily imagine when those laws could be broken for more malicious purposes. If you leave this unpunished, they might think this opens up the floodgate…

He did break laws, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was wrong. This is why jury nullification exists, though I'm not sure if that even exists in a military court.

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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post #10

> including 112 days of credit for abusive treatment he was subjected to at the Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va. They openly acknowledge abusive treatment, but has anyone received criminal disciplinary action over it? 112 days also seems a tad low considering what I've heard of his experience.

I'm sure there will be punishment, but that it'll be out of the courts. The last thing they want publicized is a case about American Marines mistreating a convict.

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

#16
does anyone know if military prison is like civilian prison, in which you could be released early for a variety of factors including overcrowding, good behavior, appeals, parole, just plain ambiguity of sentencing, etc?

from what i read in the media it seems as though civilian sentences for non-capital crimes are basically flexible.... but i'm no expert.

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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post #7

Very sad. So the guys who murdered innocents in another country using machine guns sitting on top of a helicopter are yet to be tried. While the guys who stood up for humanity and true spirit of serving forces for good is sentenced 35 years. And I know a lot of people would troll me on this opinion itself.

I think, for Manning, it has to be considered a victory, considering he was facing up to 90 years, and the gov't asked for 60. He could be out on Parole as "soon" as 2025.

I think it's earlier than that. The article mentions the time he's already served and a deduction for poor treatment in custody. That comes to nearly 4 years, itself.

I'm not sure if has to serve a minimum of (35-4)/3 or (35/3) -4, but I suspect it's the later if common sense is applied (which is often not the case).

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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post #6

I must say I didn't follow this trial closely but: "According to the military, Manning is required to serve one-third of the sentence before he becomes eligible for parole." That's... brutal.

I have zero knowledge as far as sentence's go. So with that said, how is being required to only server 1/3 of a sentence brutal? What am i missing?

Re: Judge sentences Bradley Manning to 35 years

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post #7

Very sad. So the guys who murdered innocents in another country using machine guns sitting on top of a helicopter are yet to be tried. While the guys who stood up for humanity and true spirit of serving forces for good is sentenced 35 years. And I know a lot of people would troll me on this opinion itself.

I think, for Manning, it has to be considered a victory, considering he was facing up to 90 years, and the gov't asked for 60. He could be out on Parole as "soon" as 2025.

The question is: Why should he be in prison at all? and why the other three murderers in the army who were exposed in the 'collateral damage' video be left free outside untried?

The question is why would someone end up leaking state secrets at all?: Hint: Those secrets are about wrong doings!

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