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Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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> The Model S lithium-ion battery did not catch fire at any time before, during or after the NHTSA testing. It is worth mentioning that no production Tesla lithium-ion battery has ever caught fire in the Model S or Roadster, despite several high speed impacts. While this is statistically unlikely to remain the case long term, Tesla is unaware of any Model S or Roadster occupant fatalities in any car ever. I can't hel…

I wasn't sure exactly what was meant there. At first, I thought it meant that it was statistically unlikely for there to be no battery fires in the long term, but I think it's just referring to occupant fatalities.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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post #2

"the front section that would normally contain a gasoline engine is used for a second trunk." I guess somebody has veto'd "frunk". Oh well.

Yes, but as a result, extra attention was probably given to the entire front of the vehicle, which is also usually the case for mid-engine supercars.

The big reason why the small overlap test is being focused on (aside from cars doing so well in every other test) is because of the reliance of manufacturers relying on an engine block (though really, the front reinforcement bar) to provide some assistance in bearing and distributing crash forces in more serious front impacts. When a single A-pillar has most of the force to bear, it's not been pretty for nearly every other car on the market.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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"Of note, during validation of Model S roof crush protection at an independent commercial facility, the testing machine failed at just above 4 g's. While the exact number is uncertain due to Model S breaking the testing machine, what this means is that at least four additional fully loaded Model S vehicles could be placed on top of an owner's car without the roof caving in." I don't have any frame of reference for ho…

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Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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> The Model S lithium-ion battery did not catch fire at any time before, during or after the NHTSA testing. It is worth mentioning that no production Tesla lithium-ion battery has ever caught fire in the Model S or Roadster, despite several high speed impacts. While this is statistically unlikely to remain the case long term, Tesla is unaware of any Model S or Roadster occupant fatalities in any car ever. I can't hel…

It might be, but also consider that lithium-ion batteries do have a reputation, and catching fire or exploding would be high on the list of things that anyone wanting to sow doubt about the safety of an electric car might bring up, so pre-empting it might be worthwhile for that reason too.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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post #12

> The Model S lithium-ion battery did not catch fire at any time before, during or after the NHTSA testing. It is worth mentioning that no production Tesla lithium-ion battery has ever caught fire in the Model S or Roadster, despite several high speed impacts. While this is statistically unlikely to remain the case long term, Tesla is unaware of any Model S or Roadster occupant fatalities in any car ever. I can't hel…

I wasn't sure exactly what was meant there. At first, I thought it meant that it was statistically unlikely for there to be no battery fires in the long term, but I think it's just referring to occupant fatalities.

Likewise. A paragraph break would have made it a little more clear.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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post #10
post #8

"Of note, during validation of Model S roof crush protection at an independent commercial facility, the testing machine failed at just above 4 g's. While the exact number is uncertain due to Model S breaking the testing machine, what this means is that at least four additional fully loaded Model S vehicles could be placed on top of an owner's car without the roof caving in." I don't have any frame of reference for ho…

I wonder what sort of a drop 4g's translates too. It seems to me that the height you can drop it before the roof caves in is the more important figure, but I guess it is probably more difficult to accurately run the test that way.

Depends upon how squishy the roof/substrate is. The acceleration-to-height or compressive stress-to-height conversion is not well-defined in general.

If you're optimizing for dropping a car on its roof from a specified height, it's probably better to drop the car on its roof.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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Elon has mentioned how much they prioritized safety in designing the Model S. I'm glad to hear that their efforts have paid off. This is great news for Tesla as it opens their market even larger as the car can appeal to those seeking safety and not just performance or lower carbon footprint.

I know what you and Elon mean here with the word "prioritized," but it's impressive just how many things on the Model S were a priority. Safety, performance, style, technology, experience, efficiency, etc. Where it seems most manufacturers set a few priorities and then fail to deliver on some of those, it seems the Model S had several and met them all. Of course, I end up sounding like an evangelist saying that.

Re: Tesla Model S achieves best safety rating of any car ever tested

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The crash test results, including the videos, are available here: http://www.safercar.gov/Vehicle+Shoppers/5-Star+Safety+Ratin...

And even more crash test data and videos: http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/database/aspx/vehdb/testtablede... http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/database/aspx/vehdb/testtablede... http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/database/aspx/vehdb/testtablede...

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