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Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by cliveowen »

claudius wrote: post #60
cliveowen wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no excuse for not knowing the English language, first as a 21 century citizen and secondly as a web developer.

There’s no excuse for not knowing at least three out of English, Spanish, French, Mandarin, Urdu, Arabic, Portuguese, Russian and German. If you’ve finished university peeking at a fourth and fifth language can’t hurt either. How many do you know? Edit: Oh, and how about a bit of Latin and Greek, maybe?

I do know English, Spanish and Italian and I'm doing my best learning Portuguese but that doesn't mean we should encourage a world divided by language barriers. I'd be happy to completely forget about every language, including my own native language, and having English as a universal language, it's called progress.

There's no advantage whatsoever in having a fragmented world, and if the mess in my head is any indication the alleged advantages of bilingualism are just BS.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by [deleted] »

beat wrote: post #44
joshaidan wrote: post #36

I find it interesting the amount of attention Hacker News is getting from this in mainstream media. It makes me wonder, when people unfamiliar to Hacker News read about it in stories like this, do they get the wrong impression and think Hacker News is about the criminal kind of "hacking"?

The mainstream media spent twenty years trying to turn the word "hacker" into some sort of unholy cross between thief, terrorist, child pornographer, and teenager. They'd better be getting the sense that hacker == criminal by now!

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by webvictim »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #33
rgbrenner wrote: post #13

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"they should be a little lenient in this case since it seems like he messed with only Zuckerberg's account" No, he posted to another persons account first (that was his initial bug report). Then he posted again to Zuckerberg's account when they ignored him. Also, it's too late to prevent the bad PR.. paying him now will only tell every other hacker that they can do whatever they want to facebook accounts/users, as lo…

You're right. Not paying him now tells hackers, "Sell your exploit; it'll be easier and less hassle."

I hope that any credible hacker would be able to realise that to get paid for a white hat vulnerability, you have to use it in a white hat way - i.e. show your working in accordance with the security team's guidelines. Deliberately posting to other people's timelines "for exposure" isn't white hat in the slightest.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by ceol »

beat wrote: post #44
joshaidan wrote: post #36

I find it interesting the amount of attention Hacker News is getting from this in mainstream media. It makes me wonder, when people unfamiliar to Hacker News read about it in stories like this, do they get the wrong impression and think Hacker News is about the criminal kind of "hacking"?

The mainstream media spent twenty years trying to turn the word "hacker" into some sort of unholy cross between thief, terrorist, child pornographer, and teenager. They'd better be getting the sense that hacker == criminal by now!

Your replies in this thread have been piss poor, anti-corporation, anti-media, hyperbolic shitposting. Please take it back to /r/technology.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by cliveowen »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #67
cliveowen wrote: post #43

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Do you ever stop and think that maybe if people were less lazy and started learning English things would actually improve? Information (including "important contributions to furthering computer science") would spread more rapidly, people would have access to an endless stream of news outlets and have a more detailed view of the world. Also, there won't be any need to waste money on translators (do you know how much m…

I have to assume that you can communicate fluently in a non-Germanic language, and that you already know that you can't change the way you think about concepts in a way that doesn't resemble your native language. Otherwise: Con esa forma tan cerrada de pensar, por favor absténgase de opinar.

Yes, read my other responses, I'm tired of repeating myself.

Also, the only narrow minded here is the one who advocates for a fragmented world and the resulting slow flowing of information.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by gnaritas »

webvictim wrote: post #74
guard-of-terra wrote: post #50

I think we should crowd-source $5k to that guy and make Zuck sure we don't really need him for anything. I'm ready to toss $10.

You would prove nothing other than that crime pays.

Crime does pay, that's rather the point of crime, it doesn't really need proving.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by dwaltrip »

cliveowen wrote: post #43
mcphilip wrote: post #27

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I downvoted you and am leaving this comment in hopes that those reading this thread don't get the impression that the entire HN community supports such a despicable outlook. I, for one, am grateful for all of the many important contributions to furthering computer science and its associated industries by non english speaking individuals.

Do you ever stop and think that maybe if people were less lazy and started learning English things would actually improve? Information (including "important contributions to furthering computer science") would spread more rapidly, people would have access to an endless stream of news outlets and have a more detailed view of the world. Also, there won't be any need to waste money on translators (do you know how much m…

Holy shit man, I feel bad for you. Having such a distorted view of life must suck.

I would try to explain my reasoning but judging by your other replies, it would be a fruitless endeavor.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by webvictim »

gnaritas wrote: post #77
webvictim wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You would prove nothing other than that crime pays.

Crime does pay, that's rather the point of crime, it doesn't really need proving.

In that case, crowdsourcing a way to pay this guy $5k for the vulnerability he found and abused would be counterintuitive.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s Facebook page was hacked by an unemployed web developer

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Post by lttlrck »

efuquen wrote: post #38
short_circut wrote: post #7

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Dismissive and ignored? Did you read what he submitted to them? It made no sense. He vaguely stated that there was a bug and his education. His bug report was nonsensical. I am not even slightly surprised they ignored it. And he violated the TOS before he even ever tried to post to Zuckerberg's wall.

Having dealt with fellow developers that don't have perfect english or thick accents I think it's quite unprofessional to dismiss someone's complaint without even trying to understand them. It's great for us native English speakers that it's such a dominant language but I think we should all give a little more respect for others where it's clearly not their first language and they're the ones having to go out of thei…

I agree with that completely, however, common-sense should have told him that demonstrating an exploit on third-party was a really dumb idea. It has nothing to do with TOS or language barriers.

That is why he isn't getting paid (yet?)

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