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Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by Zigurd »

MBCook wrote: post #9
hayksaakian wrote: post #7

For a better film concerning the same topic, try pirates of silicon valley. Its a bit old, but quite good.

I'm hoping Sorkin's movie is better. We'll see.

There is a very good chance it will be better, but Sorkin had to take considerable liberties to make The Social Network work as a movie. I really liked it because it captured and conveyed the spirit of things people find hard to understand. But you can't do that and be a historically accurate document. And despite Sorkin being a genius, I know several people who thought sitting through The Social Network was torture.

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by MBCook »

The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job.

She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn't sound like she's actually listening to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin's approach better than Kutcher's, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that.

It's kind of sad. Woz mentioned numerous times that the problem was showing the pre-firing Jobs behaving and being treated more like he was after having matured, but the interviewer just didn't get it.

She also asked quite a few questions designed in a "X vs. Y, choose now!" style, trying to get a soundbite or setup a narrative (Woz wisely wouldn't fall for it). Between that and the interrupting, it was actually kind of hard to listen to.

Missed opportunities, I guess.

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by asgard1024 »

MBCook wrote: post #12

The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job. She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn't sound like she's actually listening to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin's approach better than Kutcher's, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that. It's…

True, but the interview was still very interesting, I enjoyed it.

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by baby »

FaceKicker wrote: post #8
jared314 wrote: post #6

People had similar things to say about The Social Network. It was wrong about history, but it was also a good movie on its own. We will see if "Jobs", as a movie, can stand on its own.

For what it's worth, The Social Network as a movie was very well-received by critics [1]. Jobs , not so much [2]. [1] http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the-social-network/ [2] http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jobs/

The trailer for the social network was amazing and people were anticipating the movie.

I don't think anyone wanted to watch Jobs after seeing the trailer.

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by onli »

MBCook wrote: post #12

The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job. She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn't sound like she's actually listening to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin's approach better than Kutcher's, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that. It's…

Absolutely disagree. In my opinion, she does a good job in guiding Wozniak through the interview while still being respectful. Yes, it is obvious that she wanted to have some specific questions answered, but that is nothing bad, it prevents people from rambling and makes the interview interesting. And it wasn't my impression that she interrupted mid-sentence or even just often.

How do you come to the conclusion that she doesn't get his point? Didn't she even react to that with the "is he too visionary in the movie" question line?

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Post by guidopallemans »

MBCook wrote: post #12

The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job. She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn't sound like she's actually listening to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin's approach better than Kutcher's, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that. It's…

I didn't have that feeling at all. At times (one of the first questions - How did Ashton do it as an actor?), he just keeps telling about how Steve Jobs was different before he got away, and the interviewer did a good job trying to steer the interview in the direction of the questions.

If she was indeed like you said she was, she'd push on through the "no comment" on the question about the movie Woz's making, or the question "Should we see the movie?", or...

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by coherentpony »

MBCook wrote: post #12

The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job. She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point. It doesn't sound like she's actually listening to his answers, just going down her checklist. At one point he explains why he liked Sorkin's approach better than Kutcher's, then she asked a later question as if he had never said that. It's…

>The woman doing the interview really seems to do a poor job. She seems to let Wozniak get about 80-90% into statements and then speedily talk over him to move onto the next point.

This is a property of American media. When people start talking over each other, I stop watching. I can't take it.

Conversations and interviews are like a game. Each person makes their turn; the next person only gets to go when the current player finishes their turn.

The British media is a little better at this, and I'm talking mainly about BBC News, but it's still not perfect. In fact, you can see the mockery of this in The Colbert Report. Stephen Colbert frequently talks over his interviewees; it's part of his character and it hits the nail right on the head.

Re: Wozniak Says `Lot of Things Wrong’ With Jobs Movie [video]

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Post by rickdale »

I have the understanding that this movie was made in Hollywood, and therefore, Steve Wozniak complaining about the accuracy of the movie is irrelevant. Steve's main point is that the movie doesn't accurately portray Jobs in the early days and that he evolved into the character Ashton Kutcher plays. It's Hollywood, and its different perspectives. I think usually movies are 'based on a true story' not exactly a true story.

Woz has his own fame, so I don't see this as a jealous rant, but I do see it as a guy waving his arms screaming to the public "HEY HEY, I AM STILL HERE! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!"

EDIT ---- Yeah down vote me, my bet is you didn't watch the whole video.

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