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Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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Don't be shy - call it what it is - genocide.

faschism = An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. Which fits the situation. Your genocide reference, an attempt to trivialize the above statement, doesn't even make sense.

He was being sarcastic. This has nothing to do with the principles of fascism. It may be tyrannical, but tyranny != fascism

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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more of this : "But the last thing it will do is intimidate or deter us in any way from doing our job as journalists. Quite the contrary: it will only embolden us more to continue to report aggressively." less of this: "ohh noo.. Should I write my opinion on the internet? What if the NSA is watching????! Will I be put on the...the. the list???"

That's a good point: we already know they are watching, and that we are all on the list.

How very 20th Century of you. We're all in the database; much more efficient.

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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About two or three years ago I was taken aside when boarding a plane at a London airport back to Belfast by a policeman and held under their terrorism legislation. Being heavily hungover from a night spent funding London's publicans, and a little nervous about flying, I just wanted to board the plane and go home. Nevertheless, I was questioned by the queue as others boarded the plane, casting nasty looks my way. The…

> why me? Was it something I said on Twitter or Facebook? Did I just look at him the wrong way without realising?

Yeah, don't think too far - it's probably your skin color that makes you a terrrist.

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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This and the fact that Obama is constantly being caught in lies says to me that the U.S. government has no clue what information Edward Snowden has passed off to Greenwald.

This is a really interesting bit of speculation. Obama's consistently "just off" statements (i.e. saying an executive order that hadn't been implemented yet would have protected Snowden) make me think that Obama & his advisers doesn't have a good handle on what the NSA is doing and how the law applies to the "secret state." One could say that "Obama is lying," which may be perfectly true, but it could also be that th…

Obama is nothing, but a puppet. His masters surely have blackmail material to absolutely ruin him - say a recording of sex with an underage.

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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No, we aren't powerless. That's why these people are so relentless in their intimidation and pursuit of more power. If they thought we were powerless, they wouldn't bother. They are afraid, and they should be. The tide can turn quickly.

I don't think the ability to dispense fear and intimidation around the world at will is a show of fear. Our biggest hope is this becomes a national issue for the next election so we at least have the opportunity to elect the leader who respects our constitutional rights the most.

Huh? The UK doesn't have a constitution. Or are you talking about the European Convention of Human Rights.

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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And which one will that be? The "democrat" or the "republican"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTJ0qYR6YFo

Not clear yet, if its a national issue each side can make their position known and back it up with planned reforms. The one thing that is clear is that we shouldn't expect change under an Obama administration.

Are you really that naive as to expect change under the next democrat|republican administrations?

Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

faschism = An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. Which fits the situation. Your genocide reference, an attempt to trivialize the above statement, doesn't even make sense.

You have to accept that not everything happening in the world you dislike qualifies for fascism, genocide or equivalence to Hitler. Overusing these labels dilutes their 'brand', and then you don't have appropriate adjectives for real cases of fascism or genocide.

Rather than fascism per-se, actions like holding people without charge, perusing their personal belongings and papers without due process, and threatening families or associates, are the marks of totalitarianism. It exists on both the right and left ends of the political spectrum.
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