Effing cheap intimidation pricks. One day it will come back to haunt them.
Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
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Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#12Greenwald just posted his own account:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-m...
At 6:30 am this morning my time - 5:30 am on the East Coast of the US - I received a telephone call from someone who identified himself as a "security official at Heathrow airport." He told me that my partner, David Miranda, had been "detained" at the London airport "under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000."
David had spent the last week in Berlin, where he stayed with Laura Poitras, the US filmmaker who has worked with me extensively on the NSA stories. A Brazilian citizen, he was returning to our home in Rio de Janeiro this morning on British Airways, flying first to London and then on to Rio. When he arrived in London this morning, he was detained.
At the time the "security official" called me, David had been detained for 3 hours. The security official told me that they had the right to detain him for up to 9 hours in order to question him, at which point they could either arrest and charge him or ask a court to extend the question time. The official - who refused to give his name but would only identify himself by his number: 203654 - said David was not allowed to have a lawyer present, nor would they allow me to talk to him.
I immediately contacted the Guardian, which sent lawyers to the airport, as well various Brazilian officials I know. Within the hour, several senior Brazilian officials were engaged and expressing indignation over what was being done.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#13Just more evidence that the world is controlled by an oppressive totalitarian Govt that we're effectively powerless to stop.
At least with these incidents we get to know which other countries are complicit and under the influence of the NSA.
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#14I'm shocked that police actually have the power to hold you for nine hours, refuse you a lawyer and that you are not allowed to refuse to answer questioning. Edit: shocked is probably the wrong word it's hard to get surprised by this stuff anymore.
It seems odd that they removed property of a journalist. I was under the impression that journalists (and their materials) had special protections under English law. Once you get in the country you have different rights ( http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/law_e/law_legal_system... ) ( https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights )
Is he a journalist, or just the partner of a journalist?
Maybe since they know they can't intimidate Greenwald directly they are going after his family and loved ones?
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#15I'm shocked that police actually have the power to hold you for nine hours, refuse you a lawyer and that you are not allowed to refuse to answer questioning. Edit: shocked is probably the wrong word it's hard to get surprised by this stuff anymore.
I'm shocked, shocked... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gf8NK1WAOc
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#16Greenwald just posted his own account: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-m... At 6:30 am this morning my time - 5:30 am on the East Coast of the US - I received a telephone call from someone who identified himself as a "security official at Heathrow airport." He told me that my partner, David Miranda, had been "detained" at the London airport "under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000." D…
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Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#17more of this : "But the last thing it will do is intimidate or deter us in any way from doing our job as journalists. Quite the contrary: it will only embolden us more to continue to report aggressively." less of this: "ohh noo.. Should I write my opinion on the internet? What if the NSA is watching????! Will I be put on the...the. the list???"
That's a good point: we already know they are watching, and that we are all on the list.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#18Greenwald just posted his own account: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-m... At 6:30 am this morning my time - 5:30 am on the East Coast of the US - I received a telephone call from someone who identified himself as a "security official at Heathrow airport." He told me that my partner, David Miranda, had been "detained" at the London airport "under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000." D…
Quote:
"Even the Mafia had ethical rules against targeting the family members of people they feel threatened by."
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#19Just more evidence that the world is controlled by an oppressive totalitarian Govt that we're effectively powerless to stop. At least with these incidents we get to know which other countries are complicit and under the influence of the NSA.
At least history shows us that all totalitarian governments have indeed been stopped at some point. However, history also tells us they really don't like speedbumps on their route to getting to that point.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#20Just more evidence that the world is controlled by an oppressive totalitarian Govt that we're effectively powerless to stop. At least with these incidents we get to know which other countries are complicit and under the influence of the NSA.
No, we aren't powerless. That's why these people are so relentless in their intimidation and pursuit of more power. If they thought we were powerless, they wouldn't bother. They are afraid, and they should be. The tide can turn quickly.