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Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by mortehu »

toyg wrote: post #14
leoedin wrote: post #13

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I spent about a week downloading perhaps 7 CDs for Woody (I guess it would have been 2002). I'm fairly sure I never actually installed packages from most of the CDs.

IIRC most of the x86 packages were on disc 1 and 3. I don't think I've ever touched the rest.

People can elect to install a package called "popularity-contest", which reports what packages you've installed to a central server. At release, the most popular packages are put on the first discs.

Each set of discs is for one architecture only.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by cperciva »

kunai wrote: post #67
D9u wrote: post #57

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I chose FreeBSD... I wish that I would have tried FreeBSD years sooner, but I guess it's better late than never.

I run FreeBSD on my desktops, but I've found there is absolutely no option to run them on any notebooks. Linux is king for laptops.

What's wrong with running FreeBSD on laptops? Works for me...

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by nona »

BadassFractal wrote: post #68
kunai wrote: post #30

I recently switched from Ubuntu to Debian, and I keep wondering to myself why I didn't switch much sooner. The lack of any integration with a specific desktop environment, and having pure GNU and Linux underneath a pure DE is something that is really quite satisfying. It gives you modularity and customizability without having anything break or feel out of place; something that often happened to me while switching DEs…

Is it possible to run Steam on Debian? It's supported on Ubuntu, and I'm wondering if that extends to debian as well.

It's available in Debian's sid/non-free repositories, so yes.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by CasimirCelerity »

cperciva wrote: post #82
kunai wrote: post #67

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I run FreeBSD on my desktops, but I've found there is absolutely no option to run them on any notebooks. Linux is king for laptops.

What's wrong with running FreeBSD on laptops? Works for me...

Working suspend and resume was always the deal breaker for me and caused me to switch over to OpenBSD on my laptop.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by jlgreco »

justincormack wrote: post #73
jlgreco wrote: post #61

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LFS with the aide of NetBSD's pkgsrc. ;) I've been tempted to go down that route before...

Looks doable without too much work based on scanning http://wiki.netbsd.org/pkgsrc/how_to_use_pkgsrc_on_linux/

Oh yes, pkgsrc on linux in general is actually rather nice. I used to frequently use it on university machines in my home directory so that I didn't have to go through the system admins every time I wanted some little tool installed.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by sliverstorm »

jlgreco wrote: post #60
kunai wrote: post #30

I recently switched from Ubuntu to Debian, and I keep wondering to myself why I didn't switch much sooner. The lack of any integration with a specific desktop environment, and having pure GNU and Linux underneath a pure DE is something that is really quite satisfying. It gives you modularity and customizability without having anything break or feel out of place; something that often happened to me while switching DEs…

I switched to Debian (Wheezy specifically) after 8 or so years of using Fedora (initially Fedora Core ) with a year or two of Gentoo in 2008-9 or so. It really is a breath of fresh air. You don't realize it initially but Fedora/Ubuntu are suffocating.. rapid releases changing things that didn't need to be changed (I have zero objection to actual improvements, that is the reason I used Fedora for so long (and Gentoo d…

Remember that Fedora functions in part as RedHat-testing (to use Debian nomenclature), which both explains and justifies why they do many of the things they do.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by D9u »

CasimirCelerity wrote: post #84
cperciva wrote: post #82

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What's wrong with running FreeBSD on laptops? Works for me...

Working suspend and resume was always the deal breaker for me and caused me to switch over to OpenBSD on my laptop.

Unfortunately, OpenBSD 5.3 didn't have any support for my Atheros WiFi card, so I'm sticking with FreeBSD.

I'll agree that many Linux distros are better for beginners, but I dislike having software which I won't use included in my operating system, and I appreciate the FreeBSD ports system and it's ease of use.

Suspend/resume would be nice, but is not a deal breaker for me, as shutting down and powering on doesn't take so long that it's unreasonable, and with a 12 cell battery my netbook runs all day on a full charge.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by facorreia »

vacri wrote: post #55
facorreia wrote: post #31

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Please share what you found out. What characteristics of Debian make it a better server OS than Ubuntu or CentOS?

Ubuntu's stated focus from the outset is making an enduser distro. Their success in mindshare made them popular in the server arena, but there are little things here and there where it falls behind. Making a server not based on an LTS version is one early trap to fall into (all debian versions are effectively LTS), but more importantly, debian is not fond of retrograde breakages. Ubuntu is much more of a moving targe…

Thanks for sharing. I stick to the LTS versions but I hear you on Ubuntu being a moving target. I'll try my hand with Debian.

Re: Happy 20th birthday Debian

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Post by cenhyperion »

gedrap wrote: post #53
cenhyperion wrote: post #28

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I started hacking around in linux at 12 too!

Same here. Although I can't call it hacking. I lived in the middle of nowhere (tech wise, 30k people town in Lithuania) and somehow I found a book (probably the only one about Linux in my native language at that time) about Mandriva with a CD attached to it. Have no idea what that book was doing there in the local book store. Usually it were a dozen of random IT books and they had 1-2 copies of each. After a couple o…

I set up a web server with a friend. We had no idea what we were doing and it was wonderful.
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