Seems like this would be particularly vulnerable to terrorist attacks. There is a huge surface area that needs to be protected (tubes/pylons). If there are pods leaving every thirty seconds and traveling at supersonic speeds then taking out one pylon could kill several hundred people and leave the entire train inoperable. In a future where this design was used extensively to connect cities on the coasts it would quic…
Nope. Read the document. Subsonic speeds with capsules 2 minutes apart. In the event of a catastrophic depressurization (i.e. bomb on a capsule or a pylon), all capsules stop. Worst case, 28 people in one capsule die. The rest are stuck for awhile until they can be evacuated. Not very spectacular.
Wow excellent. I didn't read the whole document thanks for being thorough.
So, a sealed tube from A to Z, passing B through Y. No benefit to B through Y at all. So why do B through Y allow the tube to pass through? When railways happened, B through Y believed they would see economic benefit, and often did. They got a station. Not so here, correct? There for, wouldn't this need a government to force it through? How would that happen in the USA? To me this is where the idea runs in to the buf…
> No benefit to B through Y at all. So why do B through Y allow the tube to pass through?
But why make it a traditional train? Just build a lightweight train if it gets you all of the hyperloop's cost advantages without the additional costs and complexity of a tube?
On trains the cars have to be connected to each other. The structure has to bear the load of all of them at once. Not the case with hyperloop.
The reason we have to run long, heavy trains is it's unsafe to run two passenger capsules at 300kph a minute apart. I find it hard to believe regulations will permit that even when they're in a tube.
It's also scary that the passengers would suffocate if the life support system failed.
You're pretty much done if the life support systems on a plane fail and you're pretty much done if your car has a massive failure while you're doing 70MPH. I can't imagine it being statistically more dangerous than driving.
Driving seems to get a special exemption in the public consciousness. Trains and planes are already much, much safer than driving, but they're still required to add additional redundant safety features, and there's still outcry when one crashes.
I wonder what the security checkpoints would be like on the HyperLoop if it ever got built? They are saying capsules could depart 30 seconds apart. Imagine is there was an attack in on of them, with several others travelling at high speed just behind. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23677205 I'm sure there some contingency has been thought of, unfortunately it's just the world we live in these days :(
This system would seem very weak to criminals / terrorists / whatever firing bullets at it. It would be exceptionally difficult to track where the shot/s came from, and it would cause serious pressure problems.
Even if the pressure problems could be countered, a bullet hole is likely to leave a pretty ragged profile on the inside of the steel tube. The specification calls for the air bearing skis to ride 0.5 to 1.3mm off the tunnel wall. They'd need to be pretty robust to take hitting the ragged edge of a bullet hole at 700mph.
"In the case of the Hyperloop, Musk started focusing on public transportation after he grew disenchanted with the plans for California’s high-speed rail system." And who says that big government stifles entrepreneurial innovation? If ALL Musk does with the Hyperloop announcement is shed more light on the potential debacle that is to be our $70b+ high-speed rail in California, we owe him a debt of gratitude. PS - Dire…
Interesting point that big government provoked the advancement of the hyperloop idea - counterintuitive idea, and clearly yes. but any idea like this will need government cooperation. The real test of big government will be how they respond to the hyperloop. magic response: "of course we may be wrong, we'll look into this immediately." and then they decide to build it. likely answer: praise, perhaps even an evaluatio…
Are you seriously saying that government wont consider Hyperloop because they are averse to innovation? On the contrary, "big government" has been the largest engine of innovation the past century. NASA has put people into orbit, and on to the Moon, has launched the first space stations, and made several robotic probes to other planets and the depths of space. Musk founded SpaceX which has managed to do a fraction of the things NASA has decades after them. In 1972, the Rand corporation, financed by the United States, thoroughly researched a "Very High Speed Transit System" that is similar to Musk's proposal. Sure there will be political difficulties implementing something like The Very High Speed Transit System or Hyperloop, but realistically the government is the only entity that has the foresight, money, and motivation to undertake such a project.
Appreciate Elon Musk for this idea. But do you really want a bus sized hunk of w(ever)tf this is made out of zipping by you at 700mph?
Lets be honest, the difference between 700mph and 80mph head across the median on is negligible. Either way you are almost certainly dead or crippled. Past a certain speed the only real difference is how large of an area your body is spread out over; dead is dead.
of course, once it hits you it doesn't make much difference. However, the faster and/or more massive an object is, the bigger is the radius of damage that it can do, hence the more likely is for you to be affected by it.
For example, a sufficiently fast and massive object can derail and hit a large building killing many, while a 80Mph SUV hitting a building wall will still, most likely, not be able to bring down the whole building.
I think it's actually more useful to think in terms of "2 minutes between them", as opposed to "23 miles". 2 minutes is all you have - to detect the situation, make a decision, then stop.
How much time do you have in heavy freeway traffic?
Four seconds, if you're driving the way you were instructed. But you've got multiple options: go left or right, and if you slam the brakes they'll stop you in time. If something broke the tube, are we looking at several pods slamming into the obstruction one after the other?