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Re: Hyperloop

#171
... could CHSRA just build this? I understand they're in the planning stages, and I don't think it'd be absurd to say "this is a train, just better and cheaper".

Edited to add: My question was primarily legal - if someone were to step up and demonstrate this was feasible could it possibly make a difference?

Re: Hyperloop

#174
post #63

"Hyperloop Passenger Capsule The maximum width is 4.43 ft (1.35 m) and maximum height is 6.11 ft (1.10 m). With rounded corners, this is equivalent to a 15 ft2 (1.4 m2) frontal area, not including any propulsion or suspension components." At a first look I didn't get that the proposed passenger capsule would be so small. That's pretty cramped. Edit: Isn't the the ft to m conversion for the height wrong?

Yeah that should definitely be 2.10 meters

Re: Hyperloop

#175
post #132

That capsule ( http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2013-08-12/0812_Hyperloop_605.jpg ) looks like a claustrophobic's nightmare. Otherwise very, very cool.

Doesn't look any more cramped than the back seat of a car.

Look at the illustration on the next page of the PDF. That's not even a two-door car back seat; that's an F1 cockpit.

Re: Hyperloop

#176

That capsule ( http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2013-08-12/0812_Hyperloop_605.jpg ) looks like a claustrophobic's nightmare. Otherwise very, very cool.

I'm not claustrophobic, but this image ever so slightly terrified me: http://i.imgur.com/lGD9bUP.png I have to wonder, would making the capsule the size of a small subway car completely destroy the economics of it?

It's also scary that the passengers would suffocate if the life support system failed.

Re: Hyperloop

#178

No toilet, and no way to get off, or even really stand up? I know some personal jets lack such facilities, but they're not exactly open to the public. At least on BART you can move away from the crazy...

You can't get out of your seat during take off or landing on commercial plane either, and that easily takes 30+ minutes.

Re: Hyperloop

#179
post #70

That capsule ( http://images.bwbx.io/cms/2013-08-12/0812_Hyperloop_605.jpg ) looks like a claustrophobic's nightmare. Otherwise very, very cool.

what happens when you develop unexpected gastric issues mid-30 minute journey?

The same thing that happens when you develop gastric issues on a 30-minute helicopter tour, as the minister in a wedding ceremony, or in a dentist's chair.

Re: Hyperloop

#180
post #32

"In the case of the Hyperloop, Musk started focusing on public transportation after he grew disenchanted with the plans for California’s high-speed rail system." And who says that big government stifles entrepreneurial innovation? If ALL Musk does with the Hyperloop announcement is shed more light on the potential debacle that is to be our $70b+ high-speed rail in California, we owe him a debt of gratitude. PS - Dire…

Interesting point that big government provoked the advancement of the hyperloop idea - counterintuitive idea, and clearly yes. but any idea like this will need government cooperation. The real test of big government will be how they respond to the hyperloop.

magic response: "of course we may be wrong, we'll look into this immediately." and then they decide to build it.

likely answer: praise, perhaps even an evaluation, then disregard as unrealistic a year from now.

why would "big government" ignore this idea? fairly simple: risky and unproven, for a politician, in a career where risk is not related to upside; and probably more important is the ability to control $70bn in spending to private citizens and contractors - far more valuable to their careers (leading to donations and influence) than spending a smaller amount (a mere $7bn) on fewer contractors. For the most part, the hyperloop contractors would not be the same guys who have been donating to politicians for the past decade in support of the train.

so yes, big government and the natural corruption of a large budget (donations->spending with favored constituents) will likely lead to the status quo - a ludicrously overpriced train.

as far as political repercussions, california is not a two party state any more, so there's no one to capitalize on the idiocy of the folks in power. i guess, we reap what we sow.

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