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Ask HN: Do I need to go to college?

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I'm a senior in high school and am deciding between attending UT Austin for CompSci or skipping that and moving to San Francisco to work at a startup.

I have about 3-4 years experience in web development, and 1-2 years Android development. I have worked at four tech companies. I'm currently paid 31k as a front-end web developer at medium sized company while being the lead Android developer for an established startup on the side.

I have a pretty well fleshed out github account and a long list of completed side projects.

I don't particularly enjoy school nor debt, and I'm not convinced a Computer Science degree would be fully utilized in a career in web and android development.

Will startups take a fresh high school grad seriously? Is it a mistake to not go to college despite my experience?

What would you do?

EDIT:

Thanks for the advice, everyone. I really appreciate it.

A few follow up questions:

With my qualifications, how likely is it that I could land an internship in San Francisco this coming summer?

I'm currently learning many new (to me) technologies, ramping up my open source activity, and writing a blog. Is there anything else I should to do increase my chances?

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#3
You should go to schoool. It may sound dumb, but it's a hiring filter at lots of established companies and you'll be defending not having a degree for the rest of your career if you don't.

It doesn't take that much effort to skate through on B-C's, and you can keep doing professional dev on the side.

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#4

These probably don't factor in but here are some more details about my background/credentials: SAT is 2040 (not superscored) Top 7% of my class #8 in the nation in web design for BPA.

I faced a similar situation not long ago and wrote about it. I hope you can get something out of it :

http://idiallo.com/blog/2013/04/do-you-really-need-a-college...

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#6
College serves three or four purposes:

1. Teaches you how to get things done in a structured environment 2. Teaches you how to think more abstractly 3. Teaches you social expectations of a professiona/intellectual environment 4. Gives you an 'achievement' with a brand that allows you to say "I did this."

Some college is good. I think you can achieve most of the above without finishing college. You can achieve all of the above without going to college.

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#7

These probably don't factor in but here are some more details about my background/credentials: SAT is 2040 (not superscored) Top 7% of my class #8 in the nation in web design for BPA.

With those scores I doubt you will have much trouble in school. And if you are in-state for UT-Austin I doubt it is too expensive.

You may just want to do android and web dev now, but nobody knows what will be important 10 years from now. The skills you pick up in college, as well as the credentials, may prove to be useful.

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post #3

You should go to schoool. It may sound dumb, but it's a hiring filter at lots of established companies and you'll be defending not having a degree for the rest of your career if you don't. It doesn't take that much effort to skate through on B-C's, and you can keep doing professional dev on the side.

>it's a hiring filter at lots of established companies and you'll be defending not having a degree for the rest of your career if you don

I agree, it's essentially putting a handicap on myself for the rest of my life.

Do you think four years of full time experience and networking wouldn't outweigh a degree?

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#9
Go to school. You'll have an uphill battle for the rest of your life if you don't. Your resume will always be viewed with a bit of suspicion if you don't have a degree, you'll be expected to do more to prove there aren't gaps in your self-education. That's if anyone looks are your resume at all, many places HR won't bother without the degree. A github profile and a network of people who know your skills are both huge assets to finding work, but the lack of degree will always cause difficulties.

Plus, right now you're doing web and android dev, but maybe you'll take a class that will open your eyes to other areas. Maybe you'll find out you love compilers or computer vision or parallel computation.

There are a lot of people on HN who love to be contrarian or want to beat the system by proving they could accomplish X without a formal education which they believe is more about credentials than actual education. But the truth is, not having the degree is just going to make your life a lot harder, plus you might miss out on learning things you wouldn't self-study.

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post #7

These probably don't factor in but here are some more details about my background/credentials: SAT is 2040 (not superscored) Top 7% of my class #8 in the nation in web design for BPA.

With those scores I doubt you will have much trouble in school. And if you are in-state for UT-Austin I doubt it is too expensive. You may just want to do android and web dev now, but nobody knows what will be important 10 years from now. The skills you pick up in college, as well as the credentials, may prove to be useful.

>if you are in-state for UT-Austin I doubt it is too expensive.

I am in-state and I have some money in savings so I could probably manage it well.

>nobody knows what will be important 10 years from now

That's one of my fears about going to college. Perhaps it's irrational but I have this feeling that I'll miss out on prime opportunities which might not be available after I graduate.

>The skills you pick up in college, as well as the credentials, may prove to be useful.

I definitely agree with you on that. If I ever want to get into more rigorous software development like machine learning, searching, etc. college would be very valuable.

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