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Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by voltagex_ »

claudius wrote: post #6
bloopletech wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking through the changes that mpv introduces, it looks like they've brought back encoding. The primary motivation for yet-another-mplayer-fork, is that they are explicitly removing complex, obsolete code in an effort to encourage fresh blood to join the developers; given that what they are removing includes 'teletext' support, this is probably not a bad thing.

I am sure that there will be an outcry among teletext users how the devs dared to remove their favourite feature! Let’s see when/what Debian releases…

I am probably the only mplayer+teletext user in Australia. I'm trying to strip out the subtitles from a DVB-T stream and do an analysis of the words used on a commercial vs a public channel.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by zokier »

The whole media playing world is just a weird place with lots of twists and turns, and lots of sharp edges. There is always a new fork, some new clever filter, or a new API spawning somewhere, nothing never stabilizing. And of course lots of things being subjective and/or hardware-dependent making finding the "best" solution difficult.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by cbhl »

kovnsk wrote: post #18
belorn wrote: post #12

> (from the changelog) Support for playing URLs of popular streaming sites directly (e.g. mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... ) While a nice effort, this will really put a fast freshness date to their builds. Popular streaming sites continuously changes their api's to prevent third-party software from using their service.

The support is done through libquvi, so the distro only needs to update libquvi-scripts to make it behave.

It's really rare to see SRUs (or the equivalent back-porting) for things like this, though. On distros I've used, amsn would break in stable for months at a time when Microsoft decided to change the protocol; the generally-accepted advice was "use the package from {development/unstable/whatever the newest branch is}" which would itself require bringing in all the random new dependencies and possibly breaking X/the desktop environment/something else.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by stephengillie »

I have been a VLC user on Windows for years. I've actually stuck with VLC 1.1.5 for 2 reasons:

1. It plays any local video I throw at it. Other people tell me "It doesn't play some of my videos" but I haven't seen this actually occur. Or when I do, it's because they're using a newer version of VLC which has removed support or changed processing. VLC has terrible license problems and awful feature creep. I had some .mkv files which didn't play correctly, so I downgraded from 1.1.10 to 1.1.5, and they play just fine. That's right, the 3-year old player plays the newest .mkv files much better than the 2-year old player or the newest player.

And unlike mplayer, mplayer2, wmp, and most other players out there, you don't have to goto some random website and download some random codec pack, and install it with who knows what malware. All the codecs are included with the program.

Reading this github doesn't tell me why I should use mpv instead of vlc 1.1.5. Actually, it tells me I'll have to go find these random codec packs again, opening myself to possible CSRF attacks and other malware from poorly-secured or malicious codec providers. I'm already trusting the media player install package to not be evil, and I'd rather only have to trust 1 install package instead of it and several codec install packages.

2. I actually downgraded from VLC 2.0 to 1.1.10 because of VLC's terrible responsiveness. I don't know what changed, but it has made VLC 2.0 too annoying to use. The delay is a second or 2, which is a second or 2 longer than it used to be, and a second or 2 longer than it needs to be. When I go from a quiet video to a loud video, and I roll the mousewheel to lower the volume, that volume change needs to happen immediately, not after a 1-2 second delay.

I like that responsiveness is one of the bullet points.

I would have downloaded it and tried it out, but I don't know how to make this on Windows.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by agumonkey »

przemoc wrote: post #2

Apparently I was living under a rock, because I was unaware of mpv... Maybe you too? mpv is a free and open-source general-purpose video player. It is based on the MPlayer and mplayer2 projects which it greatly improves. Changes from mplayers: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/DOCS/man/en/ch... Quoting JEEB's explanation from IRC: > sounds like mplayer2, which used to be uau's patchset for mplayer. And th…

anyone knows an Ubuntu PPA for mpv ? couldn't build on mint 15, because of outdated *-dev packages, so out of lazyness I ask for binaries.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by SimHacker »

stephengillie wrote: post #24

I have been a VLC user on Windows for years. I've actually stuck with VLC 1.1.5 for 2 reasons: 1. It plays any local video I throw at it. Other people tell me "It doesn't play some of my videos" but I haven't seen this actually occur. Or when I do, it's because they're using a newer version of VLC which has removed support or changed processing. VLC has terrible license problems and awful feature creep. I had some .m…

VLC may play lot of videos, but it has the most systematically terrible user interface of any program I have ever seen. Just absolutely horrible, on a level that could not possibly just the results of ignorance and carelessness, but it actually seems to optimized to actively fuck the user on purpose.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by Jeremysr »

Aw, I was hoping to see that slave mode was fixed. I want to use slave mode to make a music player with my own user interface and library/playlist manager in Ruby without having to worry about how to actually play the music. Unfortunately slave mode in mplayer seems kind of unstable and sometimes even gives the wrong answer (I think it's a known bug). I wasn't aware of mplayer2, I'll have to try that and see if it works any better.

But does anyone know of a program or library with a proper interface for controlling a music player?

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by davignon »

Jeremysr wrote: post #27

Aw, I was hoping to see that slave mode was fixed. I want to use slave mode to make a music player with my own user interface and library/playlist manager in Ruby without having to worry about how to actually play the music. Unfortunately slave mode in mplayer seems kind of unstable and sometimes even gives the wrong answer (I think it's a known bug). I wasn't aware of mplayer2, I'll have to try that and see if it wo…

Have you heard of MPD? I think it's pretty much what you're looking for, there's even a ruby library. Check it out, it's a great piece of software. http://www.musicpd.org/

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by ciupicri »

SimHacker wrote: post #26
stephengillie wrote: post #24

I have been a VLC user on Windows for years. I've actually stuck with VLC 1.1.5 for 2 reasons: 1. It plays any local video I throw at it. Other people tell me "It doesn't play some of my videos" but I haven't seen this actually occur. Or when I do, it's because they're using a newer version of VLC which has removed support or changed processing. VLC has terrible license problems and awful feature creep. I had some .m…

VLC may play lot of videos, but it has the most systematically terrible user interface of any program I have ever seen. Just absolutely horrible, on a level that could not possibly just the results of ignorance and carelessness, but it actually seems to optimized to actively fuck the user on purpose.

What's so horrible about it? It looks like most media players. The playlist could use some love, but if you're only playing a single (long) video at a time it doesn't matter to much.

Re: mpv - a free and open-source general-purpose video player

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Post by stephengillie »

SimHacker wrote: post #26
stephengillie wrote: post #24

I have been a VLC user on Windows for years. I've actually stuck with VLC 1.1.5 for 2 reasons: 1. It plays any local video I throw at it. Other people tell me "It doesn't play some of my videos" but I haven't seen this actually occur. Or when I do, it's because they're using a newer version of VLC which has removed support or changed processing. VLC has terrible license problems and awful feature creep. I had some .m…

VLC may play lot of videos, but it has the most systematically terrible user interface of any program I have ever seen. Just absolutely horrible, on a level that could not possibly just the results of ignorance and carelessness, but it actually seems to optimized to actively fuck the user on purpose.

Uh...what?

The UI is plain, but all of the controls I regularly need are there. And I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that every hotkey is rebindable. If you don't like "change subtitles" to be V, you can change it to be P or even Alt-V. (Why can't we rebind Windows Copy to be Alt-W instead of Ctrl-C?)

And last I checked, the UI can be skinned too, but I grew up with plain interfaces.

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