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Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by djhworld »

This is cool but I'm not really sure if I like the "opinionated" design aspect of it all. The terminal application is drawn with a slight level of transparency that you can't seem to (easily) turn off. I like my terminals like my coffee in the morning.

Also my first port of call was to remove Midori and install firefox.

I must admit though, the interface is a lot lighterweight than unity and much better in my opinon. Whenever I install Ubuntu on anything I immediately remove unity and install gnome-classic.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by djhworld »

millstone wrote: post #130
aroman wrote: post #62

I have been a developer for elementary for 3 years, and I am part of the elementary core team. I am also personally close friends with much of the design and development team, including the project's founder and lead designer, Daniel Foré. There seems to be a lot of feedback here which basically says "this trying to rip off OS X". I would like to offer you some insight into our internal assessment of these claims. Is…

OS X System Preferences screenshot: http://imgur.com/RLB8JZp ElementaryOS settings screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/vnjmHrQ.png It's got the same left-aligned, bolded categories, in the same order, with almost identical text. It even senselessly copied the choice of the Apple Magic Mouse as the mouse icon. That tiny smudge at the bottom represents the Apple logo! I don't mean to suggest that an ElementaryOS designer is…

To be fair, the ubuntu system settings panel is practically the same.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by munchor »

djhworld wrote: post #201

This is cool but I'm not really sure if I like the "opinionated" design aspect of it all. The terminal application is drawn with a slight level of transparency that you can't seem to (easily) turn off. I like my terminals like my coffee in the morning. Also my first port of call was to remove Midori and install firefox. I must admit though, the interface is a lot lighterweight than unity and much better in my opinon.…

Hello, Terminal developer here.

sudo apt-get install dconf-editor dconf-editor

Go on org>pantheon>terminal>settings and you'll find plenty to configure. Feel free to report any bug on bugs.launchpad.net/pantheon-terminal.

We just don't have a GUI for the settings, but they're there.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by omaranto »

oakaz wrote: post #136
omaranto wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I've been using Linux for years and had no idea this was a problem on some distributions. I guess I've just accidentally skipped the ones dogmatic about non-free codecs.

which distro do you use?

Now Arch, in the past I've used Ubuntu and Gentoo. I may be misremembering, but I think in all of them there is a packages with non-free codecs either pulled in automatically or at least recommended when you install a media application.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by dubbledidoo »

frozenport wrote: post #46
nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I have never heard anybody say Linux doesn't look sexy. Remember when we were comparing Compiz to Windows XP, or Enlightenment to Windows 2000? Ubuntu is one of the few OSs that can pull a black theme. Linux problems include: 1. Hardware compatibility 2. Office compatibility (also Adobe + games) 3. Easy to mess up your system with no hope of fixing it I don't see how any of these address the problems with Linux. I ru…

I can't help it, but this sounds like straight from 2001.

Never had any issues with the things you mentioned for the last 3 to 4 years.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by mumbi »

I would like to just say that I like OS X's design, why wouldn't you want to copy it?

Edit: I noticed a lot of people saying Linux is, in fact, sexy, due to compiz and what not. Linux looks like shit and always has, there is no elegance. I, for one, have never been happy with the appearance of any Linux distro, even if for some small thing that just bugs me. Compiz might let you do some wigglying and having a box, but what Linux needs is polishing and that's what it looks like Elementary is doing, so props to that.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by AJ007 »

frozenport wrote: post #46
nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I have never heard anybody say Linux doesn't look sexy. Remember when we were comparing Compiz to Windows XP, or Enlightenment to Windows 2000? Ubuntu is one of the few OSs that can pull a black theme. Linux problems include: 1. Hardware compatibility 2. Office compatibility (also Adobe + games) 3. Easy to mess up your system with no hope of fixing it I don't see how any of these address the problems with Linux. I ru…

Hardware compatibility hasn't been an issue for me for years. Back in 2000? Yes, major issue.

#2 -- Specifically Adobe applications & Excel present big roadblocks from companies rolling over from Windows on OSX. Much of the other software that stopped companies in the past is now web browser based.

#3 -- Definitely an issue.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by ashkav »

charlesism wrote: post #171
nosefrog wrote: post #16

Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

It's interesting that the features of this OS sound like the features of Gnome in the late 90s (we care about design, and we don't swamp the user with choices)... and Ubuntu a few years later. I truly wish this project the best but it will be an uphill battle when Apple revamps the look of OS X, and Elementary OS is left looking like a dated, less consistent version of someone else's system software. That sounds more…

for the linux user interface, I'd say copying is all good, but you can't always copy your competitor. it's better to invent new things and make your competitor copy you. then you've made it and have entered the competition.

this desktop seems good-looking and simple to use, I'll give it a try.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by minusfive »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #179
aroman wrote: post #62

I have been a developer for elementary for 3 years, and I am part of the elementary core team. I am also personally close friends with much of the design and development team, including the project's founder and lead designer, Daniel Foré. There seems to be a lot of feedback here which basically says "this trying to rip off OS X". I would like to offer you some insight into our internal assessment of these claims. Is…

Looks great, nice work. But where can we find a more technical overview? I wasn't even sure whether it was Linux or BSD based or something else until halfway down the front page, and had to check the Developers section to find out it's based on Ubuntu. But which version, and what big changes did you make under the hood?

> "I wasn't even sure whether it was Linux or BSD based or something else until halfway down the front page, and had to check the Developers section to find out it's based on Ubuntu."

Really? Are those really worth complaining about? If anything, successful OSes (based on user base) have taught us that marketing should focus on user-centric features first, technical ones second.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Post by eddieroger »

Was there a reason to start with Ubuntu and not go upstream a bit and use Debian? I associate Unity and the UI of Ubuntu as the biggest differentiator between Debian and Ubuntu, and if they pulled that out, why not go upstream a bit and knock out more of the cruft?
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