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Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Those saying they like Elementary OS should just switch to OS X. I like Ubuntu better. Why? Because Ubuntu offers some real innovations not just copycat/mimicking OS X like Elementary OS.

Some might enjoy the focus on usability and design outside of Apple's walled garden. There's also the fact that Elementary OS is open source which matters a great deal to some.

You can also put Elementary OS on a computer of your choosing and for a price of your choosing, which isn't so with OS X.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Basically, they've built a new desktop environment from the ground up with focus on design and usability" Hmm, that sounds a lot like what Ubuntu did. :-)

Yeah, but I mean elementary OS is something that you can actually give to people that have never used Linux before and they will like it. Unity is, well, divisive to say the least.

Unity is divisive among people who have used Linux before. Now that it has (allegedly) stabilized, do non-Linux people still have a problem with it?

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

"elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design."

In this regard Elementary seems to be part of a larger trend in the linux desktop world, rather than unique. GNOME 3 has been heavily influenced by designers, to the point where there's been developer backlash. [0] Canonical employs thirty people to work on the design of Ubuntu and their other products, and they're still hiring. [1]

[0] E.G. https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2012-Apri...

[1] http://design.canonical.com/team/

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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From their blog post about window controls [0], it sounds like they are taking the iOS approach to application close / minimize, but I can't find any technical description of how they plan to accomplish that without forcing applications to implement additional event handlers, or something fancy with preserving memory and file handles.

[0] http://elementaryos.org/journal/whats-still-window-controls

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I have never heard anybody say Linux doesn't look sexy. Remember when we were comparing Compiz to Windows XP, or Enlightenment to Windows 2000? Ubuntu is one of the few OSs that can pull a black theme.

Linux problems include:

1. Hardware compatibility

2. Office compatibility (also Adobe + games)

3. Easy to mess up your system with no hope of fixing it

I don't see how any of these address the problems with Linux.

I run Gentoo with XFCE as my main OS, SUSE at work, and Windows to make presentations.

Fun things to do include: tight WINE integration, better genkernel, modular configuration structure so that it is harder to mess up and easier to restore.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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I've been using Elementary Luna (beta 2) for quite some time now an I've been waiting for it ever since Jupiter, so you can say I'm pretty damn excited right now. P.S. To the Apple lovers out there; dock was used before Mac and please go learn design and/or get contact lenses or something before you come saying it's a knock off.

Sure, the NextStep Dock... :)

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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post #24

Those saying they like Elementary OS should just switch to OS X. I like Ubuntu better. Why? Because Ubuntu offers some real innovations not just copycat/mimicking OS X like Elementary OS.

Ubuntu is only slightly better, because at least it allows those who are not pleased with their "innovations" to run Xubuntu.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many Linux distributions focus so much of their efforts on elegant, usable, and consistent design? I would mark that as elementary's primary innovation.

But they focus none of there efforts on elegant, usable, and consistent design. Because none of the effort done was for design. Its literally a carbon copy of OS X. The layout, the colors, the gradients, the multitasking, the dock, the app bounce on the dock, the music app, the exposé style window layout, the mission control tile multiple desktop layout. Any Linux distro with its own UI spent more time on elegant, us…

It breaks my heart when I see a comment like this because I know how much hard work goes into the design, but I can't blame people for not seeing it. It's sad. I wish they would differentiate even if it's just for the sake of differentiation.

Re: ElementaryOs Luna released

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Mark my words: elementary OS is going to be big. I was on a beta version of elementary OS a couple months ago, and it was like a breath of fresh air. elementary OS sets out to settle the number one complaint casual users have of other Linux distributions: design. Other Linux distributions look like a mish-mash of a bunch of different designs by many different people. elementary OS has a beautiful, striking, and (most…

I have never heard anybody say Linux doesn't look sexy. Remember when we were comparing Compiz to Windows XP, or Enlightenment to Windows 2000? Ubuntu is one of the few OSs that can pull a black theme. Linux problems include: 1. Hardware compatibility 2. Office compatibility (also Adobe + games) 3. Easy to mess up your system with no hope of fixing it I don't see how any of these address the problems with Linux. I ru…

Compiz is sexy, with it's sexy animations, and it's sexy rotations, and I still couldn't get it as usable as I had windows be. That's the point. Sexy is secondary to utility. They appear to be basically trying to copy the good parts of OSX.
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