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Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by sigzero » Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 11:02 PM UTC

gaving wrote: post #36

I love vim, but:- http://www.vim.org/ http://www.sublimetext.com/ Which one would you want to use?

Vim and its siblings have been around for YEARS and I can install it everywhere I work.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by sigzero » Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 11:04 PM UTC

tbrock wrote: post #66

dasil003 wrote: post #24

It doesn't appear as though MacVim for 10.7 and 10.8 is released yet though the 10.6 is: http://code.google.com/p/macvim/downloads/list

I use it every day on 10.8. Use homebrew and have less grey hairs: brew install macvim

7.4 is still the beta version in homebrew.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by sigzero » Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 11:05 PM UTC

Yoshino wrote: post #35

zhufenggood wrote: post #30

MacVim dont't have lion or moutain lion style native scrollbar still.

I turned them off completely. I found that the line numbers and file position in the status line was more than enough to get my bearings, and it looks nicer without the scrollbars. In ~/.gvimrc: " no toolbar set go-=T " no right scrollbar set go-=r " no left scollbar set go-=L

You can put those on one line...and I do the same. :)

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by jng » Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 11:59 PM UTC

mjn wrote: post #13

sramsay wrote: post #2

:help version7.4 has all the details, but the two most significant ones cited are "New regexp engine" and "A more pythonic Python interface." Of the former, the help file says: What is now called the "old" regexp engine uses a backtracking algorithm. It tries to match the pattern with the text in one way, and when that fails it goes back and tries another way. This works fine for simple patterns, but complex patterns…

Good to see the new regex engine is now shipped by default. It's been in development for quite a long time, held up mostly because of so many edge cases. The initial work was done in a 2008 Summer of Code project: http://code.google.com/p/vim-soc2008-regexp/source/list but there were lots of fiddly issues with character classes and Unicode handling, a need for exact equivalence to the old regex engine to avoid arbitr…

I think the old engine is still included, and used in the cases where the new one can't do the work.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by platz » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 12:16 AM UTC

lcedp wrote: post #22

Script to assemble last vim from source under Debian/Ubuntu: https://gist.github.com/liverlin/5274228

I had some issues with pythoninterp=dynamic and rubyinterp=dynamic. Ended up with this: https://gist.github.com/jonschoning/6202771

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by Watabou » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 12:25 AM UTC

michaelbarton wrote: post #40

pearjuice wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The one offering the best product. Or are you saying you are judging by appearance?

I think it's a fair point, judging by appearances may be instinctual if not conscious. The current git website ( http://git-scm.com/ ) looks the way it does because of an effort to replace the old one ( http://web.archive.org/web/20120101013850/http://git-scm.com... and https://github.com/blog/1125-new-git-homepage ).

You know, I actually like the old git website. It's less cluttered and looks cleaner. Maybe it's just me? The new git website does look modern but with all the logos and unneeded images, it's sort of disorienting.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by steve19 » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 12:31 AM UTC

rcarmo wrote: post #48

I've just updated my unofficial Mac OS X build (featuring alloy's native sidebar with a file tree): https://github.com/rcarmo/macvim/releases/tag/7.4 It's a tad controversial, I know, but I find it vastly more friendly than NERDTree, and I know quite a few people were looking for alloy's builds a while back. EDIT: screenshot, from an older build: https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/392683/793013/469e0c62-ebd...

Wow! I love that sidebar. Thanks for the build.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by elithrar » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 12:53 AM UTC

gaving wrote: post #36

I love vim, but:- http://www.vim.org/ http://www.sublimetext.com/ Which one would you want to use?

Both.

I adore Sublime Text, and use it where I can, but there are instances where I need to work on something remotely. Bug fixes, git rebasing, etc; and that's where I lean on Vim.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by AYBABTME » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 1:22 AM UTC

microtonal wrote: post #6

zeckalpha wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like someone read Russ Cox's work on regexp. http://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/ To future regexp implementors: Do it this way first!

It sounds like someone read Russ Cox's work on regexp. Russ Cox? You know that regular expressions have existed since Kleene's first proposals, and everyone with a CS degrees knows that you can compile them to deterministic finite state automata. Right?

I believe it's Ken Thompson who first implemented them using a DFA.

Re: Vim 7.4 is released

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Post by platz » Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 1:36 AM UTC

unknownian wrote: post #34

wubbfindel wrote: post #26

Going to wait for the update to come via chocolatey: http://chocolatey.org/packages/vim

How is Chocolatey? Does it feel Unixy enough for someone moving from Unix to Windows?

I think it covers the base case well, but its not as full featured as dkpg. Also it seems like the chocolates repos always a version behind the edge.