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How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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" If Lavabit lost its appeal to the F.I.S.C.R., and still refused to coöperate, it would run a serious risk of being found in contempt; that’s how most courts punish those who disobey its orders. The FISA court is no different. According to the court’s rules of procedure, a party may be held in contempt for defying its orders. The secret court may consider many punishments—secret fines for each day of noncompliance,…

Secret courts extraordinary rendition waterboarding indefinite detention in a location beyond the reach of the judicial system shoot to kill via drone spying on the populace on a scale that the stasi could only dream of. Spying on allies as well as enemies What kind of a regime is that?

out of control

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these…

I'd like to add this for why the current political system in the US is fucked up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw2z9lV3W1g

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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" If Lavabit lost its appeal to the F.I.S.C.R., and still refused to coöperate, it would run a serious risk of being found in contempt; that’s how most courts punish those who disobey its orders. The FISA court is no different. According to the court’s rules of procedure, a party may be held in contempt for defying its orders. The secret court may consider many punishments—secret fines for each day of noncompliance,…

Paging rayiner:

You keep saying FISC "is not a real court" and is some kind of optional decoration on top of powers the executive branch already has.

So, which is it? Does FISC have judicial branch powers? Or do these penalties amount to administrative detention in judicial branch drag?

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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Completely aside from the main point, but I am curious as to why the New Yorker chose to use umlauts for all of the instances of the word: "coöperate." It's a latin word so I wouldn't expect to see that.

I wonder if it is a rendering trick or something intentional for tracking.

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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" If Lavabit lost its appeal to the F.I.S.C.R., and still refused to coöperate, it would run a serious risk of being found in contempt; that’s how most courts punish those who disobey its orders. The FISA court is no different. According to the court’s rules of procedure, a party may be held in contempt for defying its orders. The secret court may consider many punishments—secret fines for each day of noncompliance,…

Secret courts extraordinary rendition waterboarding indefinite detention in a location beyond the reach of the judicial system shoot to kill via drone spying on the populace on a scale that the stasi could only dream of. Spying on allies as well as enemies What kind of a regime is that?

USA -> USSR. US govt has decided to follow practices of USSR govt as it considers them to be much more superior than the former USA govt practices.

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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Completely aside from the main point, but I am curious as to why the New Yorker chose to use umlauts for all of the instances of the word: "coöperate." It's a latin word so I wouldn't expect to see that. I wonder if it is a rendering trick or something intentional for tracking.

> I wonder if it is a rendering trick or something intentional for tracking.

How do you mean?

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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" If Lavabit lost its appeal to the F.I.S.C.R., and still refused to coöperate, it would run a serious risk of being found in contempt; that’s how most courts punish those who disobey its orders. The FISA court is no different. According to the court’s rules of procedure, a party may be held in contempt for defying its orders. The secret court may consider many punishments—secret fines for each day of noncompliance,…

I don't follow. Are you arguing that the FISA court is a real court, because it shares certain characteristics with other courts?

Re: How the Government Killed a Secure E-mail Company

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Completely aside from the main point, but I am curious as to why the New Yorker chose to use umlauts for all of the instances of the word: "coöperate." It's a latin word so I wouldn't expect to see that. I wonder if it is a rendering trick or something intentional for tracking.

That isn't an umlaut: it is a diaeresis.
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