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Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

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Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

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Look like a great idea and technological advancement, but the biggest thing holding back Google Glass is not that it lacks feature X. Glass will be held back because most people don't want to look like geeks. Meta's next design looks like it's from an 80's Sci-Fi movie. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but there is no way I could take someone seriously wearing those things.

Totally agree with you here. But my approach to this kind of tech in the next decade is to treat it like another i/o device for my computer.

Like you, I'd never really consider wearing these things in public (or more specifically, in a casual setting when socialising), but I'd definitely consider using them at work/home if I could make them do neat time-saving things that other i/o devices couldn't.

Ultimately, I'm happy to be an early adopter but for me to use them in the public context shown in the video, they'd have to be somehow integrated into something much much smaller. E.g. contact lenses (but that is seriously way off).

Between this, Google Glass and Oculus, we will hopefully see some serious progress in the VR/AR industries.

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

#53
post #35

Did anyone see actual demos of this thing in action? Meron came to my computer vision class this spring at CU and didn't have anything to show other than the CGI demo that has been up for over a year. The newer videos are also mostly just renderings and the only working examples that were posted are around 10 seconds long. I wish them the best of luck but it seems to me like they're really overselling themselves.

Hey, I guess I was in your class. Nice so see people from CU on here : )

It is strange that they haven't done any real demos (that I've come across), but an awesome idea nonetheless. Hopefully they release something more substantive soon.

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

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> Tracking blank white objects — be it a piece of paper, or a big blank wall — is one of the hardest computer vision challenges around. Most of what I know about computer vision comes from deep learning approaches, but tracking a white object doesn't seem like it should be too difficult. Is tracking a large white object actually "one of the hardest computer vision challenges", or is this just a garbage quote?

Tracking within a plain white object is very hard. Plain coloured walls are featureless, so there's nothing for most algorithms to latch onto. However, tracking a white object such as a piece of paper sitting on a contrasting desk is relatively easy. Especially if your algorithm is designed to handle such a case. You have the easily detectable corners and edges of the paper, and from that you can infer its transforma…

Thank you for the explanation. I was mostly thinking about the case of tracking something like a piece of paper in front of a wooden desk.

I can see how tracking the scale and orientation of field of view filling single color objects would be difficult/impossible.

It doesn't seem like these worst case scenarios would come up much in real world use. It's fairly rare to encounter situations where one's entire field of view is filled with one (featureless) color. I would image that a wide field of view for the cameras would help greatly with this problem.

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

#57
post #10

Awesome awesome awesome. I'm super psyched about this stuff. I'm going to pre-order a pair. Anyone (from Meta maybe?) have any details on the SDK? I see "write code in Unity3D on a Windows PC" from their Kickstarter, but curious if that's the latest word...

All Unity 3D. Thanks for the feedback that you want more detail. We're posting some app video and a developer section soon. We make the real world (surfaces/objects/hands) appear as 3D objects inside Unity. We do the heavy lifting with computer vision and math so you can code the game as you would any other--the cool bit is the 3D objects correspond to stuff in the real world. Our number one goal is to be the easiest…

Will this work with the free version of Unity, or only the paid version? I'm a student doing research in computer vision and would love to develop for Meta. (I actually proposed something very similar a few years ago and wanted to work with Steve Feiner, but I was never able to get in contact with him).

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

#58
post #37
post #15

Look like a great idea and technological advancement, but the biggest thing holding back Google Glass is not that it lacks feature X. Glass will be held back because most people don't want to look like geeks. Meta's next design looks like it's from an 80's Sci-Fi movie. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but there is no way I could take someone seriously wearing those things.

Ya know, I'm more or less with you and I am a Google fanboy. The 2 things that Glass will have to overcome: 1)The not-so-fashionable look. I'm sure this'll be corrected in the future. 2) The way people feel about a device that may or may not be recording them at any given moment. Let's not even mention anything about a red light glowing during recording because we know that'll be hacked out. Google Glass will be able…

It's almost scary to imagine there will inevitably be Glass-like contact lenses. How do you protect yourself from that?

Which makes me wish there was an anti-Glass product out there. Something that makes you disappear, or at least masked as a see-through hologram. It's perfectly acceptable if anti-Glass does not hide your feet for regulatory reasons.

People who are not comfortable being recorded might welcome invisibility as protection.

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

#59
post #35

Did anyone see actual demos of this thing in action? Meron came to my computer vision class this spring at CU and didn't have anything to show other than the CGI demo that has been up for over a year. The newer videos are also mostly just renderings and the only working examples that were posted are around 10 seconds long. I wish them the best of luck but it seems to me like they're really overselling themselves.

looks like they invited the reddit co-founder to test them actually:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv7nSng0yD8

Re: Meta (YC S13), The Crazy AR Glasses That Aim To Do What Google Glass Can’t

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post #37
post #15

Look like a great idea and technological advancement, but the biggest thing holding back Google Glass is not that it lacks feature X. Glass will be held back because most people don't want to look like geeks. Meta's next design looks like it's from an 80's Sci-Fi movie. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but there is no way I could take someone seriously wearing those things.

Ya know, I'm more or less with you and I am a Google fanboy. The 2 things that Glass will have to overcome: 1)The not-so-fashionable look. I'm sure this'll be corrected in the future. 2) The way people feel about a device that may or may not be recording them at any given moment. Let's not even mention anything about a red light glowing during recording because we know that'll be hacked out. Google Glass will be able…

The way people feel about a device that may or may not be recording them at any given moment.

It's pretty difficult to go out in public without being recorded. Security cameras are ubiquitous.

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