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Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by DannyBee »

Moral_ wrote: post #2

Can anyone turn this lawyer speak into something the layman tech person can understand, please?

They will release a redacted version of the opinion in question, and a redacted version of exactly one paragraph from a classified whitepaper given to congress on it. In both cases, how redacted they will be is up in the air.

They requested an extension until August 21st to do this (original deadline was August 12th). The EFF "reluctantly did not oppose this"

Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by philsalesses »

Moral_ wrote: post #2

Can anyone turn this lawyer speak into something the layman tech person can understand, please?

It's not difficult language and I think what you really want to ask, without asking, is does anyone have a TLDR? At least that's what I'm asking because the PDF on my iPhone is on the fritz.

Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by darkchasma »

philsalesses wrote: post #5
Moral_ wrote: post #2

Can anyone turn this lawyer speak into something the layman tech person can understand, please?

It's not difficult language and I think what you really want to ask, without asking, is does anyone have a TLDR? At least that's what I'm asking because the PDF on my iPhone is on the fritz.

You feel it's not difficult language to non-lawyers, but you physically can't read the text because your phone is broken? How would you know?

Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by mullingitover »

It's fascinating that the situation is such a mockery of the rule of law, yet it keeps on rolling. If the FISA decided that the NSA's activities were illegal, why would it keep rubber-stamping the warrants? It seems like at that point it should deny every single request going forward until the illegal activities have stopped.

Is there a process for impeaching the FISA judges for malfeasance?

Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by jlgreco »

DannyBee wrote: post #4
Moral_ wrote: post #2

Can anyone turn this lawyer speak into something the layman tech person can understand, please?

They will release a redacted version of the opinion in question, and a redacted version of exactly one paragraph from a classified whitepaper given to congress on it. In both cases, how redacted they will be is up in the air. They requested an extension until August 21st to do this (original deadline was August 12th). The EFF "reluctantly did not oppose this"

> They requested an extension until August 21st to do this (original deadline was August 12th).

I don't get it; how long could it possibly take to redact such documents? Is there somebody toiling 8 hours a day for 7 or 8 more days, scrambling to get this done in time? Or are they lazily just sticking it on the backburner of some intern?

Re: Obama to release FISA court opinion that ruled NSA surveillance unconstitutional

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Post by ihsw »

mullingitover wrote: post #8

It's fascinating that the situation is such a mockery of the rule of law, yet it keeps on rolling. If the FISA decided that the NSA's activities were illegal, why would it keep rubber-stamping the warrants? It seems like at that point it should deny every single request going forward until the illegal activities have stopped. Is there a process for impeaching the FISA judges for malfeasance?

It's a matter of official policy to include legal loopholes that enable the Federal government to assert its power rather than comply with the law.
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