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Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by peto123 »

decasteve wrote: post #3

My rant about the topic of UK Porn is that it is entirely analogous to what is happening in Russia with the anti-Gay legislation. Two forms of sexual expression, both states using the same logic in terms of reasons for legislating against them, namely "Protect the children". Both with social stigma and negative attitudes from the most ardent conservatives of the population. Though in Russia the bigotry extends a litt…

Maybe my analogy would also by naive, but I consider the effects of porn to be similar to effects of consuming alcohol - some enjoy it, some became addicted to it, and some people's lives will get literally destroyed by it. Therefore, alcohol is "opt-in" - you have to reach certain age, and you also need to buy it, there are not bottles of alcohol available anywhere for anybody to consume.

Similar with porn, it should be opt-in, you should read certain age to be able to access it, and then do some kind of opting for it.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by peto123 »

darxius wrote: post #9
peto123 wrote: post #7

I might be a minority here, but I honestly think that making internet porn opt-in is a good idea, I am not from UK, but I support it. As a reader of /r/nofap subreddit, I have learned that porn have had a very negative impact on a lot of people, and it is certainly not healthy for very young people (or even kids) to have easy access to it (as the situation is now). I am just not sure if I would support other categori…

Why does government or industry have to intervene in your personal life? If you don't want to view pornographic material, don't search for it. Stay away from sites where you might see something like it. If you're a parent, educate your kid. This is a waste of time and money. Plain and simple.

If you are a parent yourself, you will know that suggesting education is not enough. By your logic, why is there an age limit to alcohol consumption? Your whole reasoning could be used for that as well - and enforcing alcohol age limit also costs time and money...

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by sunglasses »

smutticus wrote: post #10

This whole story would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. I can just imagine a whole generation of young brits teaching each other how to avoid this idiotic pornography filter. Just like every other ineffective pornography filter has been worked around by every other group of adolescents in internet history. The people who think it works get placated, the kids work around it, and it has absolutely no effect on violenc…

The adolescents teaching each other how to get around filters - that is exactly what ends up happening. A few years back, Turkey had a pretty long ban on Youtube. Countless sites for tweaking browser settings specifically geared for Turkish Youtubers emerged. There was even a cartoon by a prominent artist that depicted the PM declaring his agenda: "We won't lift the ban until we have 70 million DNS experts."

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by jiggy2011 »

peto123 wrote: post #11
decasteve wrote: post #3

My rant about the topic of UK Porn is that it is entirely analogous to what is happening in Russia with the anti-Gay legislation. Two forms of sexual expression, both states using the same logic in terms of reasons for legislating against them, namely "Protect the children". Both with social stigma and negative attitudes from the most ardent conservatives of the population. Though in Russia the bigotry extends a litt…

Maybe my analogy would also by naive, but I consider the effects of porn to be similar to effects of consuming alcohol - some enjoy it, some became addicted to it, and some people's lives will get literally destroyed by it. Therefore, alcohol is "opt-in" - you have to reach certain age, and you also need to buy it, there are not bottles of alcohol available anywhere for anybody to consume. Similar with porn, it shoul…

Buying alcohol doesn't require you to declare your desire to consume it, a barman does not check your name against a list when you order a drink and say "says here that you are teetotal, I cannot serve you until you call our head office and declare that you desire to now consume alcohol".

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by weego »

peto123 wrote: post #7

I might be a minority here, but I honestly think that making internet porn opt-in is a good idea, I am not from UK, but I support it. As a reader of /r/nofap subreddit, I have learned that porn have had a very negative impact on a lot of people, and it is certainly not healthy for very young people (or even kids) to have easy access to it (as the situation is now). I am just not sure if I would support other categori…

If you don't agree with blocking other forms of content, why would you think opt-in is a good idea? Surely opt-out is far more sensible all ways round.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by chatmasta »

smutticus wrote: post #10

This whole story would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. I can just imagine a whole generation of young brits teaching each other how to avoid this idiotic pornography filter. Just like every other ineffective pornography filter has been worked around by every other group of adolescents in internet history. The people who think it works get placated, the kids work around it, and it has absolutely no effect on violenc…

Hey, at least it will produce another generation of tech savvy Internet users! Maybe we'll get some more engineers out of it.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by dave809 »

peto123 wrote: post #7

I might be a minority here, but I honestly think that making internet porn opt-in is a good idea, I am not from UK, but I support it. As a reader of /r/nofap subreddit, I have learned that porn have had a very negative impact on a lot of people, and it is certainly not healthy for very young people (or even kids) to have easy access to it (as the situation is now). I am just not sure if I would support other categori…

Censoring something is the lazy way of getting people to conform to your ideals. Imagine that instead of a censor campaign, the UK government had made an attempt to educate the public on the effects of porn. This could be done with adverts and studied in sex ed in school.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by falk »

peto123 wrote: post #7

I might be a minority here, but I honestly think that making internet porn opt-in is a good idea, I am not from UK, but I support it. As a reader of /r/nofap subreddit, I have learned that porn have had a very negative impact on a lot of people, and it is certainly not healthy for very young people (or even kids) to have easy access to it (as the situation is now). I am just not sure if I would support other categori…

You need to be a responsible adult and talk to your children about pornography. If you don't trust them then you need to install a porn filter. But if you don't trust your kids, you're going to have a lot of bigger problems then porn.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by sunglasses »

peto123 wrote: post #12
darxius wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does government or industry have to intervene in your personal life? If you don't want to view pornographic material, don't search for it. Stay away from sites where you might see something like it. If you're a parent, educate your kid. This is a waste of time and money. Plain and simple.

If you are a parent yourself, you will know that suggesting education is not enough. By your logic, why is there an age limit to alcohol consumption? Your whole reasoning could be used for that as well - and enforcing alcohol age limit also costs time and money...

The main problem is that somewhere some database will hold the information about citizens and a "likesPorn" flag. That information is personal. Alcohol and cigarettes both have age limits, but there is no database that people need to register into ("wantsBooz = TRUE") before being able to purchase their first drink.

Re: Godaddy caves to UK Porn hysteria

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Post by falk »

peto123 wrote: post #12
darxius wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does government or industry have to intervene in your personal life? If you don't want to view pornographic material, don't search for it. Stay away from sites where you might see something like it. If you're a parent, educate your kid. This is a waste of time and money. Plain and simple.

If you are a parent yourself, you will know that suggesting education is not enough. By your logic, why is there an age limit to alcohol consumption? Your whole reasoning could be used for that as well - and enforcing alcohol age limit also costs time and money...

Most countries don't have a 21+ year old age limit on alcohol. It's actually a rather poor idea and harms 18/19/20 year olds who attend college and get busted drinking. It's pretty silly to draw parallels between porn and alcohol. You've said you're a /r/nofap reader. You obviously have a bias against porn.
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