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Post by oscargrouch »

rayiner wrote: post #217
deftnerd wrote: post #211

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My family and I have started this process already and expect to be in Central America within the year.

Because the Central American governments so wonderfully respect human rights.

At least they dont have Guantanamo with prisoners with the same racial/religious profile..

wake up dude, US is at the end of the list when it comes to human rights.. (not to say the damage in human rights it has caused to other countries like cuba, iran or iraq, hurting economy or with wars)

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Post by fnordfnordfnord »

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #153
Karunamon wrote: post #119

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Anything that I really care about will be. And if this is just bulk data, there's tar -czf | gpg -e | ssh

Okay well, no legal protection.

Ooooh, somebody is mad, here, have another.

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Post by crucialfelix »

dkulchenko wrote: post #138

This is infuriating, and the worst part is that a clear solution isn't in sight. Sure, we can fight this in the courts, and a few secret programs might get shut down, but operations will just continue under a different name. We can encrypt our data, move our services and data offshore, but that just paints a big target on our heads - doesn't actually address the fundamental issue. This is supposed to be a democracy,…

I have a theory that actually They don't care about surveillance, They don't care about a few measly terrorists or dissenters.

It's all about the massive federal money to implement these surveillance systems. They are just doing their jobs because its profitable.

It's the new Military Industrial Complex. War is profitable. So we have to disrupt and eradicate that as an incentive.

Encryption and political solutions are just playing defense. Destroy the core problem : the profit incentive to violate our privacy and constitutional rights.

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Post by hnha »

WhoIsSatoshi wrote: post #227
skrowl wrote: post #59

So.... what should we use now?

Is MEGA ( https://mega.co.nz/ ) an acceptable company? What's the HN consensus on this? Kim Dotcom does appear a bit sketchy.

god, no. that weasel ran bbs systems for the whole purpose of ratting out warez users to the authorities, making money through it as he coorporated with a lawyer. he actively spied on the users. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Schmitz#Werdegang

never ever trust that piece of ....

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Post by mpyne »

unimpressive wrote: post #266
rayiner wrote: post #217

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Because the Central American governments so wonderfully respect human rights.

I know you'd probably prefer people stay in the US, but would you like to make a recommendation for our viewers at home looking to get away?

I hear Human Rights Watch maintains a rank-order list. Probably Amnesty Internation does as well. But I'm about to leave to go home or otherwise I'd dig it up myself.

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Post by tlrobinson »

deftnerd wrote: post #280
onli wrote: post #28

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And this reads as if someone was trying to force him to install means to spy on his users, and it wouldn't be surprising if the aim was to spy on Snowden directly (if he really used this service).

What I find interesting is that the lavabit homepage says that the owner has been fighting this for 6 weeks, but the reporter that released Snowden's email address did it July 13th. The Government has been trying to get into Lavabit longer than that. Although, perhaps they already knew that Snowden was using Lavabit and started the process immediately after his flight to HK.

His Lavabit address has been in PGP key servers since April: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0x4DB8A...

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Post by nwp90 »

sneak wrote: post #265
__alexs wrote: post #254

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It has implications for certificate pinning (like that used in Chrome) if you can only pin to CAs that operate in a single regulatory domain.

Indeed, I hadn't considered that. Though, if you are pinning in an app and not just in-browser, you can bundle your internal CA cert in the binary and sidestep the whole mess. This is what I advise my customers that have security-sensitive stuff do. The PKI can no longer be trusted.

"No longer"? It could never be trusted, and many of us said so when it was first introduced. It's just taken a while for everyone else to realise that we were right.

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Post by elementai »

onli wrote: post #121
RyanZAG wrote: post #64

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Encrypting is a given - obviously you'd want to only be using Saas services in Germany etc that are fully encrypted. The problem in using USA services is that even if everything is fully encrypted, the USA can and will send goons around to take your data. Encryption is simply useless when dealing with a company in the USA who is forced to hand over the keys and whose data-centers can be legally entered and modified b…

Don't choose Germany. We may have strict privacy laws here, but we also have the BND cooperating with the NSA, tapping directly into the main internet nodes (Frankfurt). And don't forget that part of the method of the NSA is to use a mule inside the target company, which would be very easy in Germany given its status of being a wannabe ally of the USA and the longstanding sympathy of the german public for the USA. An…

It took me a while to understand that you probably mean Iceland.
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