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Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

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Hey your website is not finished, you have lots of LOREM IPSUM :)

haha..hence the developing! I really just want some feedback, to see if the business model I have in mind is any good; Ill be happy to make some recommendations in exchange, the OP doesn't have enough for me to help, and would like to ask some more directed questions.

ok, again in your website, looks better, is your service free or subscription based?

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

haha..hence the developing! I really just want some feedback, to see if the business model I have in mind is any good; Ill be happy to make some recommendations in exchange, the OP doesn't have enough for me to help, and would like to ask some more directed questions.

ok, again in your website, looks better, is your service free or subscription based?

AS far as it pertains to your thread, Ill be happy to help out for free in exchange for bouncing some questions about the biz model off you (ie, Id like to know more about your company/current tech etc and start a dialog). But the plan is to be a subscription based service, basically a completely managed, hands off server environment for your team, that scales, for a flat rate + the normal rackspace/AWS/cloud provider rates you pay directly to them.

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

#24
Don't host it yourself unless you're planning on using the same server for 2+ years. If not, then stick withe rentals and find a better provider. At the end of every year, renegotiate your prices for a better deal if you want to keep the same server, or bump up to the newer models.

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

#25
I'm assuming you have the technical resources to manage your own hardware.

I've built a a lot co-lo solutions for clients. They end up being very expensive if you use a "name brand" provider. You are paying for rack space, power, A/C, security, bandwidth, etc, etc. And then anytime something breaks, you need to send somebody in to fix it. If the provider supplies "hands" then they charge heavily for that. Remote consoles are good, but not that good.

With so many providers out there, ranging from bare metal to VPS to PaaS - I find that hybrid solutions work the best. Not putting all your eggs in one basket, etc.

In my experience, the greater the lock-in the worse the service - of course YMMV. I tend towards pay-by-month and stay flexible. Whilst AWS is expensive if used continuously, I find it good for handling spikes. But you do need to architect you solution to move the workload around and that can end up being more bother than its worth.

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

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post #23

We've been with OVH for about 3 months and over all the experience has been good. Prices are also very competitive. I'd look there if I were you.

What's the one thing you dislike the most about OVH, if you had to choose 1?

They've had some internal network problems lately. It's been really annoying but it's apparently fixed now.

The other thing is their billing system. We have ~30 servers with them and have to pay for each one of them separately. It's such a pain. I noticed something yesterday in the web console that I think solves this, but I'm not sure.

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

#28
You have to look at your profit margins and costs to decide what's the right choice. If you have very low margins and hosting constitutes a big chunk of cost it's very reasonable to get your own servers. If that's not the case aim for flexibility and comfort. AWS is very expensive. Many startups simply have high margins and wasting time on optimizing hosting costs makes little sense.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ is a nice board about hosting.

Re: Dedicated Server vs. own server, suggestions?

#29
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I've always wanted my own server, but then I discovered Amazon's AWS. It's much much cheaper, and you can scale pretty easily.

If you think AWS is cheaper than ANY bare metal hardware you are out of your mind or simply just an amazon shill.

I am sure if I went dollar to dollar, pound for pound, it may be more expensive, but I don't have money for the bandwidth or infrastructure to install at my house to do half the things I do with Amazon. If you have any alternatives, please let me know.
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