Fuck Sanjay Gupta. There is no debate to be had. It is not up for discussion. I don't have to justify what I do to my body to fucks like this guy or anyone else.
Why I Changed My Mind On Weed
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would rather drive on LSD than drive tired, no question.
Can't LSD cause you to hallucinate? Hallucinations seem like the #1 thing you wouldn't want to happen to you while you are driving.
In my experience, one dose of acid will make you see things, but not things that aren't there. More like interesting patterns in clouds. You can clearly distinguish what's real and what's not. That being said, I'd rather not drive, but could imagine doing so.
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#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a person who had a roommate whose schizophrenia was likely induced by heavy marijuana use (along with his tripping on multiple bottles of Robitussin), the fact of the matter is that the harm done to this small percentage of people is vastly outweighed by the damage done to people who can't get access to it for their medical needs. And that's ignoring the huge harm caused by prosecuting recreational users due to an…
The problem is that there are two simultaneous arguments happening. The first is whether cannabis should be legalized and available as a business opportunity. You'll find very few people here to disagree with about this; there's a practically universal belief that cannabis should be legalized. The second is whether cannabis is benign. There is a valid discussion to be had about how safe cannabis is. Having it does no…
Very well stated, this is essentially what I'm getting at. I'm all for legalization/decriminalization, but there are serious issues with chronic marijuana use that need to be addressed.
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
See my other responses. In summary, DOs are fully trained doctors who also believe that a completely pseudoscientific methodology (OMM) is valid medicine. I have very little confidence in such a person's ability to critically weigh evidence, and it seems crazy to me to let them give people drugs.
DOs are fully trained doctors that happen to have gone to medical schools affiliated with osteopathy. A previous commenter related osteopathy to Catholicism via Georgetown; that sounds about right. People choose medical schools for a variety of reasons (cost, admissions, locations). One of the practitioners at my primary care doctor's office is a DO, and does not believe in pseudoscience. I think what happened here i…
>I think what happened here is that you overreached; you claimed that chiropractors could prescribe drugs, were corrected, and then scrambled to recover your argument instead of just admitting you were wrong.
It's a good hypothesis, but for the purposes of updating your model, I should inform you that your guess is wrong. This is a position I've given a lot of thought to. I know that a lot of people disagree with it, so I chose chiropractic for my argument, as it would have been a less controversial and more clear cut example - had I not been mistaken about their ability to write prescriptions. That was sloppy of me.
The difference between OMM and Catholicism is that Catholicism does not purport to be medicine and is not part of the medical curriculum. If it were a Pentecostal school and they taught all of real medicine, but also taught faith healing, then I would feel very similarly about that to how I feel about DOs.
Here's a test: ask the DO at your primary care office if he thinks that OMM is a valid medical practice.
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#315Man, I didn't even know who Dr. Gupta was but I fucking love this guy after what his article did to the public.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
He wrote that he's "shocked, shocked" at what he found as a device to get more people to read the piece. I'm sure that editorial decision was commercial and not public-spirited, but still. Yes, you are being overly cynical. My guess is that you agree with virtually everything in the article, and, instead of being pleased that someone has not only come around to your position in the most public fashion possible, but a…
Hardly! He doesn't have to slink off anywhere, nor do I think he should. But frankly, the convenience and timeliness of his argument is well worth pointing out. Speaking personally, I hold a special disdain in my heart for smart people that perpetuate the war on drugs for various reasons and then profess to stand for individual freedom. In particular, the argument of not enough research, keep it illegal is the most i…
Yeah I agree with you. It is utterly implausible that he was not previously aware of every last thing he mentioned in the article. There's just no way. Oops, I ignored all of this evidence and all the worldwide recommendations of doctors prescribing it to patience this whole time?
No, of course not. He knew full well - probably on his initial pass of the data a decade ago or whatever if he's at all competent - of all the things he "discovered" in this article.
He merely sacrificed the health and comfort all of those people who could have benefited until now, in order to further his career.
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#317I'm glad that Gupta has made this public apology. It takes a lot of courage to make that statement especially for someone with great public influence. I'm just curious as to why it took him this long. Medical marijuana has been prescribed in hospitals for some time with great benefit. I mean, just from a clinical standpoint, he should've seen the great upsides and limited downsides to using the drug. Patients, typica…
> I'm just curious as to why it took him this long. He's a media-savvy guy who was considered for surgeon general and has a career appearing on mainstream TV, including Oprah and Larry King Live. Someone like that can't afford to be too far ahead of the curve. I'd say this about-face means the marijuana legalization debate is ready to go national.
Or donning my tin foil hat, Monsanto is preparing the PR for its GM Cannabis
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually it has been demonstrated that cannabis can cause brain damage in teenagers. How's that for "less harmful than tobacco"?
[Citation needed.] How many instances in a sampling size? How large was the sampling size? How rigorous was the study? Peer reviewed? Publisher? Offhand, I can immediately tell you the overwhelming evidence is that tobacco (cigarettes) is far more harmful than cannabis. I direct your attention to the myth of cannabis being as harmful as x number of cigarettes[1] and the myth that cannabis harms brain cells[2]. While…
knock yourself out:
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/135/7/2245
Of course, you could have googled this up yourself in 10 seconds but I guess people believe what they want to believe.
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What does his audience have to do with him being unprincipled and self-promoting?
I think being borderline unprincipled and very self-promoting comes with the territory of being a TV personality, so if we factor that out, he's actually doing marijuana advocates a huge favor by speaking to the older generation of voters who have endured decades of propaganda against marijuana and who now, by listening to the most credible TV doctor in America, might vote to legalize.
"Sure, he's a tool...but now he's our tool."
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#320Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry about your roommate but that is anectdata. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19560900
All that this study shows is that the amount of psychosis and schizophrenia in the population stayed constant. This doesn't in and of itself disprove a link between cannabis use and schizophrenia, it just disproves the prior hypothesis that a greater percentage of people would develop it.
Right, during a period in which pot use increased.