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Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by johnrob »

tenpoundhammer wrote: post #42

Sounds like any country willing to guarantee a snoop free environment could have a lot of servers hosted there. I'm thinking the Caymen islands of data. Set up a shell company and a shell server in the Caymens to protect your money and your customers.

Don't forget a physical shell to keep the U.S. marines at bay.

Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by erichurkman »

venomsnake wrote: post #38
rsync wrote: post #9

Time to donate to the EFF. They haven't been branded as a terrorist charity yet, AFAIK...

Don't give ideas. Too bad that he does not have donations page. I would gladly donate. Also - respect for the decision he made. If he kickstarts a campaign for restoring the service I will be there too.

There is a link at the bottom of the email to a PayPal page for donations to a Legal Defense Fund.

I do wonder if PayPal was a good choice for this, or just a choice of convenience. I have trouble trusting PayPal given how many horror stories about accounts being suspended, funds seized (or returned to the senders), and phantom account locks for fraud investigations.

Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by computer »

[deleted] wrote: post #50
computer wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a nightmare. However, I do feel strongly that lavabit made the only right choice. The US government is entirely to blame.

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Actually, I don't think so, if he was a paying user. Everything on-disk was encrypted for paying users, and since lavabit had to shut down completely to not "be complicit in a crime against the American public", I assume that the NSL wanted them to make a change like Hushmail did in the past, to send the user's password to the server on the next login so that they can decrypt all emails.

Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by [deleted] »

venomsnake wrote: post #38
rsync wrote: post #9

Time to donate to the EFF. They haven't been branded as a terrorist charity yet, AFAIK...

Don't give ideas. Too bad that he does not have donations page. I would gladly donate. Also - respect for the decision he made. If he kickstarts a campaign for restoring the service I will be there too.

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Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by jaggederest »

kefs wrote: post #40
jaggederest wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think canaries are effective. You can't get around a court order just by mental gymnastics, they'll hold you in contempt. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I suspect that they'd simply order you to keep updating the canary.

I'm also unsure of their proven effectiveness, but how could they hold you in contempt for _not_ taking an action?

Usually contempt of court is used for not taking an action. Examples would be in situations where the court was attempting to compel journalists to reveal their sources, and contempt of congress during the House Unamerican Activities era for not revealing information they wanted.

Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by jerfelix »

lawl wrote: post #63

I really would want to donate to them. But you know I kind of feel weary now connecting my PayPal Account with them. I hope some kind of organisation is standing up for them. Like EFF or something. Not because I don't trust them. But because I don't trust the NSA. They might flag me as a terrorist or something. Then again I'm probably already on this list for having some technical involvment with something the US gov…

There should be a bitcoin address for donations.

There's no reason to trust me, but if you send me bitcoins, I'll convert to dollars and send to the fund. You preserve your anonymity. I'll convert all donations at the end of each month.

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Re: Lavabit abruptly shuts down

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Post by heartbreak »

ck2 wrote: post #21
rsync wrote: post #9

Time to donate to the EFF. They haven't been branded as a terrorist charity yet, AFAIK...

The head of the NSA branded them as "the next terrorists". http://www.salon.com/2013/08/06/cyberscare_ex_nsa_chief_call...

He's not the head of NSA. He's the former head of NSA.
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