Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
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Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
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Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#2Yes, in recent times I changed my searching habit a bit: I still mostly use Google, but when I want to find out what are the newest things about some topic, more often that not, Twitter Search will give better results than Google. So I think Larry is correct.
Still, Twitter doesn't do "realtime search", it does "realtime twitter search", so what Googlers ough to do will be more complex.
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#3Please don't do this. Google is already useless enough as is. New HN comments get indexed in like five minutes, but then they're gone in a month or two. Same with all content lately, it gets indexed really fast and then it's gone. It's gotten to the point where I'm looking for stuff I know exists and I know the keywords used on the page, and I still can't find it because Google just doesn't index that page anymore even though it's relatively popular. (For what it's worth, I was looking for a lecture that IIRC was submitted here a while ago that was basically a defense of pure math research in university.)
I actually used Yahoo! this week for the first time in a decade because Google just doesn't return good results anymore.
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#4Larry: just buy Scoopler and be done with it.
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#5How does Google figure out relevance in realtime? With twitter, it's user driver content with tags etc.
But with the net at large, blogs etc, this becomes difficult. Incoming links etc are hard to determine in real time (primarily because they haven't occurred yet).
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#6Please don't do this. Google is already useless enough as is. New HN comments get indexed in like five minutes, but then they're gone in a month or two. Same with all content lately, it gets indexed really fast and then it's gone. It's gotten to the point where I'm looking for stuff I know exists and I know the keywords used on the page, and I still can't find it because Google just doesn't index that page anymore ev…
Can you explain this more? Why would HN comments vanish? Doesn't google follow all links?
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#8When I watched the LOST season finale last Wednesday I was trying to find out the answer to the question "What lies in the shadow of the statue" right after the show ended. (During the show, the answer was spoken in a different language)
Google real-time search had picked up the answer from both a TV forum and Yahoo! Answers in about 5 minutes and it took Twitter about 55 minutes before anyone had an answer in the search results. I felt a bit let down by my first usage of "real time" search from Twitter.
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#9Please don't do this. Google is already useless enough as is. New HN comments get indexed in like five minutes, but then they're gone in a month or two. Same with all content lately, it gets indexed really fast and then it's gone. It's gotten to the point where I'm looking for stuff I know exists and I know the keywords used on the page, and I still can't find it because Google just doesn't index that page anymore ev…
Can you explain this more? Why would HN comments vanish? Doesn't google follow all links?
HN was not designed with SEO and linkage in mind -- after a while pages can become "orphaned" after they get pushed down by new stuff. No search engine follows all links. As a practical matter they generally give up after 6-8 links away from the home page.
Re: Larry Page on Real Time Google: We Have To Do It
#10Please don't do this. Google is already useless enough as is. New HN comments get indexed in like five minutes, but then they're gone in a month or two. Same with all content lately, it gets indexed really fast and then it's gone. It's gotten to the point where I'm looking for stuff I know exists and I know the keywords used on the page, and I still can't find it because Google just doesn't index that page anymore ev…
I agree. I haven't used Google for months. It's so web1.0 It's not even in the cloud. It's in datacenters! Google stopped being relevant the moment twitter burst onto the scene with its paradigm shifting earthquake. Everyone I know now just tweets people asking for stuff instead of using google. That way you get 'realtime' results - also Twitter is immune to spam or gaming. It's impossible. Either that or they go straight to WolframAlpha which has largely killed off Google in recent days.