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Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely off-topic but I've this a few times now in different places. I'll come to the end of what I'm reading and there'll be a tl;dr at the frickin' _end_ of it! Isn't it supposed to be right up front so that if I am incredibly lazy and trusting I can just slurp the tl;dr and move on? When placed at the end is its meaning changed to something like "to summarize" or "in summation" ???

This construction {{point}}; {{elaboration}} tl;dr: {{point}} is about as redundant as it gets. For what it's worth, I take that form of "tl;dr" as emphasis, not as a literal tl;dr.

> For what it's worth, I take that form of "tl;dr" as emphasis, not as a literal tl;dr.

This.

I've been inured to using it in that way as well. I see the criticism above as a valid one though.

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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How long do I have to use this site before I get downvote?

It comes at 500 karma. You'll have to wait a while. And if you mean the article, then you'll never get downvote. There is no downvoting articles. Only flagging.

That explains the new accounts with 500+ karma...

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…

> A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question its legitimacy as that is only obvious. A government elected with a reasonable majority arguably represents the people who elected them. Not represents as in "represents their interests", implying that they act on their behalf in their best interest. No, represents as in "they are the…

I am an Indian so I wasn't referring to the US in particular although my bad that I didn't make it clear.

Well, the voting system is not necessarily perfect, at least not here. In my country there are sects where people sell their votes for alcohol. I stand by my assertion that government != country on a philosophical level if not a practical one.

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…

> A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question its legitimacy as that is only obvious. A government elected with a reasonable majority arguably represents the people who elected them. Not represents as in "represents their interests", implying that they act on their behalf in their best interest. No, represents as in "they are the…

>the legitimacy of the expressed vote is in question

Like we had with the Bush v.s. Al Gore election?

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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"who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years." This is the scariest aspect of the data collection. People like this have the data to identify homosexuals. Hell, I suspect that a lot of the rationale for the data collection was tracking Muslims. The potential this information has to facilitate genocide is astronomical and homophobes are in positions of power.

I understood the quote as an insult to nerds who are afraid to talk to women and not as homophobia.

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It comes at 500 karma. You'll have to wait a while. And if you mean the article, then you'll never get downvote. There is no downvoting articles. Only flagging.

That explains the new accounts with 500+ karma...

Links? That sounds very interesting if theres a real pattern to it.

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It comes at 500 karma. You'll have to wait a while. And if you mean the article, then you'll never get downvote. There is no downvoting articles. Only flagging.

That explains the new accounts with 500+ karma...

Are you threatening me? ;-) Kidding aside, I almost never downvote (power = responsibility)

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…

Weird thing is: "Terrorism" originally referred to acts committed by a government. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism

Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists

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People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…

> A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question its legitimacy as that is only obvious. A government elected with a reasonable majority arguably represents the people who elected them. Not represents as in "represents their interests", implying that they act on their behalf in their best interest. No, represents as in "they are the…

> represents as in "they are the image of what those who elected them want"

I don't vote for who I want, I look at who has a chance of winning and vote for the lesser evil, because any other vote is practically meaningless.

(Our voting system is stupid)

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