This is a great argument against people who "got nothing to hide".
If the government suddenly decides you are a terrorist you will understand privacy is a good thing.
Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists
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#12People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…
Completely off-topic but I've this a few times now in different places. I'll come to the end of what I'm reading and there'll be a tl;dr at the frickin' _end_ of it! Isn't it supposed to be right up front so that if I am incredibly lazy and trusting I can just slurp the tl;dr and move on? When placed at the end is its meaning changed to something like "to summarize" or "in summation" ???
Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists
#13People need to start accepting that government != country; such people as such being called as "terrorists" or "communists" or other words that were bandied about as the bogeyman of the time are perceived as threats to the government by those most poised to profit from that government. A government that no longer represents the people, but corporations and those that benefit by it, will threaten those that question i…
Completely off-topic but I've this a few times now in different places. I'll come to the end of what I'm reading and there'll be a tl;dr at the frickin' _end_ of it! Isn't it supposed to be right up front so that if I am incredibly lazy and trusting I can just slurp the tl;dr and move on? When placed at the end is its meaning changed to something like "to summarize" or "in summation" ???
This construction
{{point}}; {{elaboration}}
tl;dr: {{point}}
For what it's worth, I take that form of "tl;dr" as emphasis, not as a literal tl;dr.
Re: Cyberscare: Ex-NSA chief calls transparency groups, hackers next terrorists
#14Original Guardian article here: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/06/nsa-direct...
Interesting quote further down where he begs the question, Betteridge's-law-of-headlines-style:
Hayden: "But certainly Mr Snowden has created quite a stir among those folks who are very committed to transparency and global transparency and the global web, kind of ungoverned and free. And I don't know that there's a logic between trying to [punish] America or American institutions for his arrest, but I hold out the possibility. I can sit here and imagine circumstances and scenarios, but they're nothing more than imaginative."
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#15What will they do about the person or persons who disclosed the provenance of the information leading to the closing of multiple designated sites in countries in MENA?
Should we not protect the sources and methods involved in obtaining communications (not chatter, but actual intelligence) of such high valued targets as the head of the group we are most interested in, and a local organization with similar goals and growing scale?
I assume that whoever this person was is on the run, or at least not speaking from an official podium or floor of an illustrious deliberative body, right?
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#16We live in a world doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. This sounds like an old transcript saying that if you disagree with the government / military you must instantly be a communist. Feels like we are only a step away from public service announcements on how to spot if your child is a terrorist because they spend a lot of time on their computer.
> We live in a world doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past.
But now, we have storage and much faster circulation of information. Which means we can track these "mistakes", dig them up easily whenever they're about to be repeated and discuss them again (better yet, "fork" the old discussion and adapt it to the current issue).
Maybe somebody should build the perfect tool to do just this. (I feel it doesn't exist yet, but the need is now clearly here.)
EDIT: I tried to hint at that (in this case regarding surveillance only) here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6152935
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#17How long do I have to use this site before I get downvote?
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#18Sometimes I wish that "Little brother" was a completely made up story. But lately many parts of it read like a script for what's happening at the moment. What is published by news lately makes me wonder what would happen the next time some big event in the US happens... the first "conspiracy theory" will be - NSA/FBI/... organised it (wouldn't be hard, people were given "support" before so that they can be arrested - just skip the arrest part) to prove more monitoring and control is needed. And could anyone really disagree at that point?
Some of that was already seen after the news about closing the embassies. There were many comments saying it's only a show, put on to "prove" that there really is a danger of something happening.
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#19"who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."
This is the scariest aspect of the data collection. People like this have the data to identify homosexuals. Hell, I suspect that a lot of the rationale for the data collection was tracking Muslims.
The potential this information has to facilitate genocide is astronomical and homophobes are in positions of power.
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#20How long do I have to use this site before I get downvote?
It comes at 500 karma. You'll have to wait a while. And if you mean the article, then you'll never get downvote. There is no downvoting articles. Only flagging.