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Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by ars »

notatoad wrote: post #48
ars wrote: post #37

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> Always show the tab bar Which way I'd this one going to go? On or of? And the fact that I have to ask tells me that maybe they should not have removed the option.

Tab bar will be always visible. The fact that you have to ask means nothing, because you are one person. Decisions get made based on data, not anecdotes.

The fact that I have to ask means I have no way to predict which they consider "better". It could have just as easily gone the other way.

Personally I'm glad it's in the visible direction though.

An option should only be removed if the "better" way is obvious.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by statictype »

proexploit wrote: post #44
statictype wrote: post #19

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There are still use-cases where using is the cleanest way to achieve something without resorting to javascript (or a soup tag).

Like what? I buy the use case of using a table for data, but are you implying there's other scenarios where using table elements are the best choice?

A main content area and a sidebar with each having different colors and both maintaining the same height such that they expand vertically with the content (without having to hard-code pixel values).

I saw a page showing how it could be achieved using only divs, but really, it was a complete rube goldberg machine, the sole purpose of which, seems to be to adhere to the religion of not using tables.

I get that table layouts have their own issues but I think its silly to be dogmatic about refusing to use them where it's clearly the best hammer to drive in that nail.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by jacobr »

mcpherrinm wrote: post #30
mcav wrote: post #21

All snark aside, I wonder what the rationale was for doing this. It'd be a shame to load a website in a browser 20 years from now, only to see the site render incorrectly due to no-longer-implemented tags. Next, ? It's tough, obviously, because we can't have cruft build up all over. But this seems like a fairly straightforward case that a browser could shim out in JavaScript by default. Blink is a pretty straightforw…

Gecko was, afaik, the last major browser engine that supported . Chrome and IE don't, at least. Opera won't, after switching to, ironically enough, the engine called Blink. So it's not exactly the same as removing : Other browsers already didn't support it.

Oddly enough Chrome/Blink still has the String.prototype.blink method to create a blink tag from a string. If I recall correctly it's actually part of an ES (not DOM) standard.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by brymaster »

lukifer wrote: post #36
derefr wrote: post #32

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Both of these effects can be recreated quite easily using CSS3 animations, by the way.

Plug: I wrote a JS lib that can be used to create a CSS3 (please use sparingly): http://lukifer.github.com/HoverForMore.js

This creates some really nasty glitching when you hover over the text that scrolls in Safari 6.0.5

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by lukifer »

brymaster wrote: post #66
lukifer wrote: post #36

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Plug: I wrote a JS lib that can be used to create a CSS3 (please use sparingly): http://lukifer.github.com/HoverForMore.js

This creates some really nasty glitching when you hover over the text that scrolls in Safari 6.0.5

So it does. Strangely, the small example is unaffected. Thanks, I'll look into it.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by ishansharma »

caf wrote: post #60
zobzu wrote: post #33

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there's bugs for each of these (which are open to the world and anyone can comment) all you have to do is to take a stance during the process. harder to do so after a bunch of various people (employed or not by mozilla) decided something. pretty sure those options went off because enough people decided that the preferences/option panel was too complicated and these were the ones that telemetry indicated were the leas…

I would not be at all surprised if there was a high correlation between "People who turned off Javascript" and "People who declined to provide telemetry", so there could be some selection bias in those results.

People who understand what that setting did can still disable by going to about:config!

This is not a conspiracy, just making browser hard to break for people who check boxes and forget about these. For those, browser is broken!

Those who know what disabling JavaScript actually does still have a way to disable! Where does all the privacy talk come in between?

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

notatoad wrote: post #48
ars wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Always show the tab bar Which way I'd this one going to go? On or of? And the fact that I have to ask tells me that maybe they should not have removed the option.

Tab bar will be always visible. The fact that you have to ask means nothing, because you are one person. Decisions get made based on data, not anecdotes.

Any ideas where the data is that showed this move was positive? Is all the browser usage data open?
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