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Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by ryanpetrich »

panhandlr wrote: post #24
Natsu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

Let this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbe…

If you don't like the direction the Mozilla Corporation is taking Firefox, you're free to disable automatic updates, revert to a previous version of the browser, or even fork your own version of Firefox. It's not tyrannical to want new versions of Firefox to present a better user experience and be less confusing to everyday users.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#32

Post by derefr »

pamelafox wrote: post #26

Aww, man. I love using (in FF) and (in Chrome) when giving presentations, they're such crowd pleasers. At least Chrome still has , I used it in a talk just 2 days ago. Hope they don't follow FF's lead.

Both of these effects can be recreated quite easily using CSS3 animations, by the way.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#33

Post by zobzu »

panhandlr wrote: post #24
Natsu wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

Let this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbe…

there's bugs for each of these (which are open to the world and anyone can comment) all you have to do is to take a stance during the process. harder to do so after a bunch of various people (employed or not by mozilla) decided something.

pretty sure those options went off because enough people decided that the preferences/option panel was too complicated and these were the ones that telemetry indicated were the least used.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#34

Post by pitterpatter »

Natsu wrote: post #15
Kequc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that disable javascript either do it by accident and then stop using the browser or are nerdy enough to figure out how to turn off javascript in the configs. Javascript will also be configurable using plugins.

Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

Exactly, and if you're so inclined to have those options set in a certain (and don't want to do so through some other addon like NoScript) you can set it in about:config.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#35

Post by adrusi »

jallmann wrote: post #18
krapp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, everything else I can think of is worse for data, tables are pretty good for that (minus the weird vertical centering thing that sometimes happens in cells.) But seeing tables being used for layout annoys me far more than the blink tag.

> But seeing tables being used for layout annoys me far more than the blink tag. How come? CSS positioning is pretty unintuitive, and sometimes it's just easier to get something working with tables. If the end results look fine, what's the problem? Table-based layouts aren't in-your-face like the blink tag was. Oh, and don't view-source on HN ;)

I've actually found CSS layout to be more intuitive than tables. maybe it's just that I have ages more experience with CSS than tables, but seriously, tables feel like a cludge for layout.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#36

Post by lukifer »

derefr wrote: post #32
pamelafox wrote: post #26

Aww, man. I love using (in FF) and (in Chrome) when giving presentations, they're such crowd pleasers. At least Chrome still has , I used it in a talk just 2 days ago. Hope they don't follow FF's lead.

Both of these effects can be recreated quite easily using CSS3 animations, by the way.

Plug: I wrote a JS lib that can be used to create a CSS3 (please use sparingly): http://lukifer.github.com/HoverForMore.js

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#37

Post by ars »

Natsu wrote: post #15
Kequc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people that disable javascript either do it by accident and then stop using the browser or are nerdy enough to figure out how to turn off javascript in the configs. Javascript will also be configurable using plugins.

Yeah, they're trying to remove the settings that people set to goof up their browsers from the look of this. There's this one, too: "Load images automatically" and Always show the tab bar" checkboxes removed from preferences and reset to defaults

> Always show the tab bar

Which way I'd this one going to go? On or of? And the fact that I have to ask tells me that maybe they should not have removed the option.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

#38

Post by barbs »

mcav wrote: post #21

All snark aside, I wonder what the rationale was for doing this. It'd be a shame to load a website in a browser 20 years from now, only to see the site render incorrectly due to no-longer-implemented tags. Next, ? It's tough, obviously, because we can't have cruft build up all over. But this seems like a fairly straightforward case that a browser could shim out in JavaScript by default. Blink is a pretty straightforw…

I'm sure if it becomes well and truly missed, someone will make an add-on to interpret them properly.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by pcwalton »

mcav wrote: post #21

All snark aside, I wonder what the rationale was for doing this. It'd be a shame to load a website in a browser 20 years from now, only to see the site render incorrectly due to no-longer-implemented tags. Next, ? It's tough, obviously, because we can't have cruft build up all over. But this seems like a fairly straightforward case that a browser could shim out in JavaScript by default. Blink is a pretty straightforw…

There were parameters threaded throughout random layout functions to record how long things were supposed to blink for. It was a maintenance burden.

Re: Blink tag removed from Firefox

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Post by marblar »

zobzu wrote: post #33
panhandlr wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let this day go down in history as the day we declared our independence from the tyrannical Mozilla organization and their corporate-interest driven and oppressive removal of our freedoms and ability to customize our browser. We shall not be stricken down by their restrictive and non-representational releases of firefox... instead we choose to be empowered by the option to disable things such as javascript, and tabbe…

there's bugs for each of these (which are open to the world and anyone can comment) all you have to do is to take a stance during the process. harder to do so after a bunch of various people (employed or not by mozilla) decided something. pretty sure those options went off because enough people decided that the preferences/option panel was too complicated and these were the ones that telemetry indicated were the leas…

Surely he was kidding?
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