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PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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It's 2013. Why the fuck is anyone still using Windows?

IMHO - it has the best windowing system. Trivial perhaps, but it's the one huge thing that continuously bothers me about Ubuntu and OSX.

If it's only about the windowing system, you might want to try out a few X Window Managers on Linux. There's more than what comes out of the box with Ubuntu.

(I like tiling window managers like XMonad for example.)

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Those are actually more than two clicks and sadly enough to frustrate me every time. There must be a fork with sane defaults out there somewhere.

You could probably export a Registry file that has all your settings and then import on a new machine.

The last time I used windows a bit (I think it was around the Planetside 2 launch...), I noted down this:

# set up for putty: # From: http://mshnitzer.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/export-putty-setti... comment:

reg export HKCU\Software\SimonTatham putty.reg reg import putty.reg

I'm not sure what's the standard now, but I also always set "use ssh protocol v2 only" -- and you probably should too (on the off chance that you have some ancient device that doesn't handle version 2, you should probably make an exception in that profile).

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Since starting to use Windows 8, I found that the grouping behavior of the taskbar combined with a dozen open PuTTY windows drove me insane. There's a multiple-tabbed PuTTY shell, but it was hard to get used to as well. I finally switched to the Chrome SSH client, which has been much better (though it doesn't have nearly the features of PuTTY, of course).

I like MTPuTTY - http://ttyplus.com/multi-tabbed-putty/ - and I'm curious if you used this or another version.

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Get rid of it for what? This is purely a troll; you offered no solution. I can't even imagine what you're referring to; is OSX or Ubuntu going to make managing my windows any better? Note: I'm well aware of workspaces, but that can't be what you're referring to, as they are available to Win users, and it's not clear the OP is looking for anything more than tabs, which a WM isn't generally providing.

> Get rid of it for what? This is purely a troll; you offered no solution. I can't even imagine what you're referring to; is OSX or Ubuntu going to make managing my windows any better? Try XMonad on Linux. It does allow me to manage my windows better.

I feel like a broken record. The OP uses windows. The comment I replied to insists Windows is garbage and the OP should jump ship, because there's no hope for Windows managing windows. It's ludicrous to suggest Linux to OP, when he simply wants to manage his PuTTY windows differently (Re: his WM technically already manages the windows [grouping], but it's not what he wants); it is made more ludicrous by the fact that there exist tiling window managers for Windows -- see my other comments to SIBLINGS of your's.

Not that a tiling manager is going to be of ANY help in OP's case; I really doubt the auto-scaling and tiling of his windows is what is making him struggle with dozens of PuTTY instances.

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Linux is bigger than Ubuntu. There are Linux WMs that are FAR beyond what's available in Windows or OSX.

Obviously. Nothing you said is helpful to the OP or helps to support the post I replied to. Not to mention, Windows has numerous windowing or window tiling managers [0]; the Linux elitism is not helpful, especially when grossly misinformed. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#Microsoft...

Thanks, I didn't know about these. (I am stuck with Windows at work..)

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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post #47

Since starting to use Windows 8, I found that the grouping behavior of the taskbar combined with a dozen open PuTTY windows drove me insane. There's a multiple-tabbed PuTTY shell, but it was hard to get used to as well. I finally switched to the Chrome SSH client, which has been much better (though it doesn't have nearly the features of PuTTY, of course).

If you have a ton of shell connections open at once, consider trying a "base station" linux machine from which you jump out to other machines, + tmux. This way you ssh to machine1, run tmux, then you can create as many sessions as you want in whatever combination of windows/tabs you like. Bonus: you can disconnect from machine1, and when you reconnect everything is still in place. Worth a try for sure!

My first thought was this sounds a lot like the "screen" command. Which is basically true, but with the added benefit of screen splitting. Also, tmux is distributed under the BSD license (instead of GPL).

http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Since starting to use Windows 8, I found that the grouping behavior of the taskbar combined with a dozen open PuTTY windows drove me insane. There's a multiple-tabbed PuTTY shell, but it was hard to get used to as well. I finally switched to the Chrome SSH client, which has been much better (though it doesn't have nearly the features of PuTTY, of course).

You can disable grouping, change the size of task bar, etc. I guess nowadays "hackers" prefer to bash Windows on HN, rather than learn how to use it effectively ...

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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You can run any WM Linux has on Ubuntu. I've heard good things about evilwm and have personally used ratpoison. They're both in the repository I'm sure.

I thought it'd be obvious I was speaking generally; suggesting "any WM" to the OP is still not helpful. Windows has just as many "any WM," so I really don't know your point.

> Windows has just as many "any WM,"

No. It doesn't. Windows has one GUI and various themes for it; Ubuntu has multiple GUIs. That's what a WM is in Linux terms: A whole new GUI that sits on top of very basic graphical primitives which don't determine anything about how a GUI looks or works.

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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Is there a client that has UTF8 as default and something different than the courier font?

It's two clicks after you install putty. select Default, go change those two options (recommend the Mensch font, but that's purely personal). Go back to the sessions screen, save this as default. done. now every session you create will have UTF8 and a decent font by default. I also suggest you change scroll back to 999 or 9999. And change the color of bold blue to something readable.

PuTTY beta 0.63 defaults to UTF-8 encoding and 2000 lines of scrollback (rather than ISO 8859-1 and 200).

Re: PuTTY 0.63 released, fixing four security holes

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post #56

Since starting to use Windows 8, I found that the grouping behavior of the taskbar combined with a dozen open PuTTY windows drove me insane. There's a multiple-tabbed PuTTY shell, but it was hard to get used to as well. I finally switched to the Chrome SSH client, which has been much better (though it doesn't have nearly the features of PuTTY, of course).

Disable the grouping? Properties, Taskbar buttons, Never combine.

That doesn't turn off grouping, it turns off combining.

Grouping puts taskbar entries from the same app next to each other.

Combining turns multiple entries for the same app into 1 entry. To select a particular window, you have to hover over or click the combined entry - which causes large thumbnails of each of the combined windows to be displayed, then click the appropriate window thumbnail.

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