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Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #37

All it takes is for a nutritionist to come in, do something better and open-source. Squish

Open source, made from whole foods, Soylent Orange: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjA38cUd4BZBdGZ...

I guess I'm going to write up an explanation and justification based on my review of nutrition research at some point. But it's not like it's monetizeable, so I lack motivation.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #14
post #2

Just as Soylent is disrupting the traditional food industry Huh? I've asked this before and never got an answer. How is Soylent different from Ensure Complete? Is it cheaper? Better made? Easier to order? Tastes better? Better for me? Higher quality? Because if it isn't really any different then what Soylent will need to do is market better than those other companies. Because I'd definitely trust Abbott with my healt…

Do you believe generally that Big Food makes healthier products than independents? I believe the reverse is usually true in the US. You can trust Big Food to pump their products full of sugar because testing shows it makes consumers buy more. Sugar is second on Ensure's ingredient list ( http://ensure.com/products/ensure-complete-shakes ) while Soylent is not sweet.

VC-funded startups have exactly the same kind of incentives that result in Big Food not producing healthier products than health-over-maximizing-profits oriented independents.

Sure, they are going to want to differentiate from existing Big Food products (so do new Big Food products), but otherwise, the trust factors are pretty much the same.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #33
post #9

A bad idea run by someone who has no clue about what he's doing combined with another bad idea supported by people who have no clue about what they're doing? Sign me up.

How is Bitcoin a bad idea, and how do we not know what we are doing?

1. Bitcoin has no rigorous security definition.

2. Bitcoin can be "attacked" (for some vague notion of what it means to attack a system that has no security definition) in polynomial time.

3. The economics of Bitcoin are extremely suspect and based on a poorly developed economic model, supported by neither the Austrian school nor by modern monetary theory. This is probably the underlying cause of the lack of a security definition, as the security definition of a digital cash system will almost certainly be driven by the system's economic model.

These issues have been covered ad nauseam by many people, and have been largely dismissed by the Bitcoin community. All the while we have seen increasing amounts of energy sunk into Bitcoin mining, we have seen a major block chain fork that left transactions in question, and we have seen wild fluctuations in the value of Bitcoin currency.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #37

All it takes is for a nutritionist to come in, do something better and open-source. Squish

Open source, made from whole foods, Soylent Orange: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjA38cUd4BZBdGZ... I guess I'm going to write up an explanation and justification based on my review of nutrition research at some point. But it's not like it's monetizeable, so I lack motivation.

Oh nice! =)

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

#46
post #39

Sorry, but I can never trust something made for human consumption by the guy who wrote this: http://robrhinehart.com/?p=572 (especially the Hormones, Antibiotics and Processed Food section).

Seems to be a totally incoherent braindump of every populist psuedo-fear, similar to a political stump speech. The only half-way valid point is on organic greenwashing.

It's a list of myths, with the thesis that things are getting better. Try some reading comprehension.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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Every time I see a Soylent article on HN I hope that it's all just a sick joke that will soon be revealed as an elaborate hoax and forgotten about. Why the hell would anyone in their right mind base their entire diet off of some liquid concoction made up by some random guy who is clearly not a nutritionist? Why don't you guys just learn to eat a healthy and balanced diet?

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #37

All it takes is for a nutritionist to come in, do something better and open-source. Squish

Open source, made from whole foods, Soylent Orange: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjA38cUd4BZBdGZ... I guess I'm going to write up an explanation and justification based on my review of nutrition research at some point. But it's not like it's monetizeable, so I lack motivation.

There's always money that can be made, even if it's a "commodity" by being a knowledge person / service provider. By open sourcing, that's a signal of so much confidence on a mfgr's part that people would stick with a particular brand the existence of a recipe which can be easily replicated. Most people aren't going to bother. Knock-offs can come in and try, but probably aren't going to dent brand-affinity.

Many people, especially high income people, would gladly pay for the convenience of ready-to-go product.

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

#49
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Bitcoin a bad idea, and how do we not know what we are doing?

1. Bitcoin has no rigorous security definition. 2. Bitcoin can be "attacked" (for some vague notion of what it means to attack a system that has no security definition) in polynomial time. 3. The economics of Bitcoin are extremely suspect and based on a poorly developed economic model, supported by neither the Austrian school nor by modern monetary theory. This is probably the underlying cause of the lack of a securi…

1. What do you mean?

2. Countries can be attacked too. I don't know what your point is here. If bitcoin survives its infancy, it could become more resilient than any other currency.

3. Could you explain it in practical terms? Because as long as it works, why should I care about what theorists say? Bitcoin's creator said himself that it was an experiment, and rightly so, we have never seen anything like Bitcoin taking off before. Seems like he nailed it on his design.

Yeah, I have seen a lot of people raging. How is that evidence of anything, other than fear of the unknown?

Re: Soylent now accepting Bitcoin for preorders

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems to be a totally incoherent braindump of every populist psuedo-fear, similar to a political stump speech. The only half-way valid point is on organic greenwashing.

It's a list of myths , with the thesis that things are getting better. Try some reading comprehension.

I skimmed it because it was not worth my time. Try civility. Mmm tasty. =)
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