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Re: Amazon launches Amazon Art marketplace

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You're too poor to own art whose primary defining characteristic as art is that it's too expensive for poor people to own.

Link to poor people art please? (And please don't let it be Homer Simpson art---i.e. garbage smashed together. And I don't count digital prints as art.)

What price range do you consider "poor people art"? If an artist (even an amateur) spent say 20 hours on an original piece that you absolutely loved, how much are you willing to pay today to that artist?

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If you like printed digital art, you can buy them from [Curioos]( http://www.curioos.com/ ) at a relatively cheap price.

Curioos is NOT "digital art", It's barely a printer for "Digital painting".

I was not aware of the distinction till now.

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Link to poor people art please? (And please don't let it be Homer Simpson art---i.e. garbage smashed together. And I don't count digital prints as art.)

Why don't digital prints count as art? I have some lithographs that I got framed, they look amazing.

I'm not an art purist, but I'd speculate that you run into issues with sheen and shadowing with medium like oil paints, which have a 3D shape on the canvas. It would be difficult to accurately capture & faithfully reproduce.

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You're too poor to own art whose primary defining characteristic as art is that it's too expensive for poor people to own.

Link to poor people art please? (And please don't let it be Homer Simpson art---i.e. garbage smashed together. And I don't count digital prints as art.)

Attend a "con" where artists go to sell their work. I picked up some good art in Hyper Japan in London a week ago. A print, but the original is digital and it was signed by the artist (DestinyBlue on Deviant Art). Bonus: getting to meet the artist.

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Why don't digital prints count as art? I have some lithographs that I got framed, they look amazing.

I'm not an art purist, but I'd speculate that you run into issues with sheen and shadowing with medium like oil paints, which have a 3D shape on the canvas. It would be difficult to accurately capture & faithfully reproduce.

Now I'm imagining a plotter with the ability to control pressure, height, and angle, and a paintbrush rigged with accelerometers for motion capture…

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I just don't get it, 20k for pieces like this: http://www.amazon.com/Firecracker/dp/B00E70BZ3K/ref=sr_1_22?... I wonder if people would appraise it quite as highly without context, and the painter's life story.

A lot of collectibles' value comes not from the objects themselves but from the exceptional contexts which spawned the objects Wouldn't you pay more for a prop that was actually used on the set of your favorite movie instead of an identical reproduction? Wouldn't you pay more for an object that was a key during an important historical event even though there are many objects like it used by unknown people in unknown…

Historicity is the key. That and provenance.

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My guess is "soon" we'll have a 500 dpi full color e-ink kindle to admire rentable art. And perhaps a giant e-ink kindle to hang on the wall for exactly that purpose. One of my long term "in my infinite spare time" projects has been to build a nice small (well, what passes for small now...) HDTV size digital picture frame and rotate artwork on it. I figure if I can keep the capital cost under a couple hundred bucks (…

Oh wow. I have been thinking of exactly the same idea. To that end, I just started playing around with Raspberry PI to see if it can work out. Looking online, seems they also have color E-Ink available which should make the cost even less. Would you like to chat?

Well, there's not much to say.

About a decade ago I had a 24x7 linux based fileserver / LDAP / NFS / mp3 jukebox / misc box available at home which had nothing plugged into the VGA out... so I installed "zgv" (which is still available) because it is a console mode graphics viewer which can do slideshows. So I didn't have to bother with all of X on what was fundamentally a home fileserver. I had a very simple shell script to clean out a directory, wget pictures from all over the net (I had the local wx radar, and street scene webcams in Ireland, all kinds of stuff like that) and dump all the downloaded files (including 404 errors and the like) into the directory. Then I ran each graphic file thru a processor mostly so it would eat 404 errors and failed downloads and the like so they disappear rather than mess up the slideshow also to resize to the proper res. Then zgv in slideshow mode would display each pic for X seconds, and do it Y times, such that it took about 15 minutes to run, or maybe it was a half hour. Then rinse and repeat forever. Even with some abstraction and file renaming to force the order in the slideshow, we're talking about a "two screenful" bash script, it wasn't much.

The analog VGA output was fed into a gadget that converted certain VGA resolutions into composite video (This is why I was using imagemagick filters to resize the images, my converter didn't work well at certain SVGA compatible resolutions which "zgv" would use..) That composite signal via some modulators went all over the house. There's a lot more to that story. I basically had a crude cable TV plant in my house. A handful of highpass/lowpass filters and some cheap composite to NTSC modulators costs less than you'd think.

If I had to do it over again I'd probably steer toward X windows for the graphics, I'd bother to actually figure out how to auto-start the system rather than log in by hand at each (rare) reboot to run the script (probably outta inittab, errr.. systemd I guess). Given modern screensavers and the like it might amount to just boot up GDM/KDM/somethingDM and let a script update the screensaver directory of pictures... I have not kept up with modern FOSS developments WRT digital picture frames, the whole software setup might just be an "apt-get" away now. Or if not, it should be. Some double buffering so I could download and process the next set of "slides" such that the transition would be smooth and instantaneous when it updates, would be nice, and probably not too hard.

Color eink is not really available. I have a small BW eink shield and vaguely postage stamp sized display for an arduino. The price was unpleasant. I thought it humorous that to show the durability and no-power required of the e-ink they ship it displaying some Chinese characters rather than blank. At this time I think we're stuck with LCDs although Amazon, with its special history and relationship with e-ink could probably sell the worlds first actually shipping color e-ink digital picture frame. Which is my suspicion about the whole "amazon art" thing.

I want a "huge" picture frame. Not a little commercially available thing or even a hacked up laptop. So I'm probably stuck with TVs/Monitors (not much difference anymore) for now.

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