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Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

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Re: Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

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...And what happens when we no longer need cows? It's not going to be happy fun time for the species, because as soon as there's not a reason to breed them then we'll have a few cows kicking around in zoos and that's it. Good for the environment, possibly, but bad for the species.

We don't need hundreds of millions of cows, do we? I think they contribute a lot to Earth's pollution, too.

Re: Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

#12

...And what happens when we no longer need cows? It's not going to be happy fun time for the species, because as soon as there's not a reason to breed them then we'll have a few cows kicking around in zoos and that's it. Good for the environment, possibly, but bad for the species.

Do you think they are having fun now? They are bred to be eaten, if we don't need them we'll stop breeding them.

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#14

It seems like this is all for solving the wrong problem. Why isn't there a shift away from the perceived need for more meat.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean by perceived need for more meat - to me this seems like a project geared at creating more ethical, future proof meat products.

Re: Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

#16

...And what happens when we no longer need cows? It's not going to be happy fun time for the species, because as soon as there's not a reason to breed them then we'll have a few cows kicking around in zoos and that's it. Good for the environment, possibly, but bad for the species.

We can worry about that when they figure out how to make milk in the lab. Industrial meat production is a pretty brutal affair. It's not quite clear what it might mean for something to be good or bad for a species, but I'd think that having a large population suffering constantly under shockingly inhumane conditions would fall on the bad side.

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What are the cells for the burger fed on? In tissue culture it's normal to feed cells Foetal Bovine Serum. Is this the case with these cells? If so we haven't fully removed the need for living, breathing animals from the equation.

maybe this is not the objective, rather having a more efficient way to produce meat, you're taking out of the equation the farm, meaning less space used, maybe healthier meat (without all the antibiotics and less fat) from one cow you can produce 10 tons of meat without all the space needed not only to raise the cows, but to grow their food, the lab can also be closer to consumers having obvious implications on that.

Well, if efficiency is the endgoal here, than bean cultivation seems way more logical answere to beef alternatives than fake meat. You basically take the the food you would otherwice feed your cows, stew it together with some saffran and beet juice (the same colorants as for the fake meat) and you have your economy-burger.

No intermediate step which takes 10 times the space of a traditional meat-farm, no anti-biotics, fat-free and no need for any living, breathing animal slughtering.

Honestly I cant find a single logical reason why this artificial-meat buisness is a good idea except for "just because we can"

Re: Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

#19
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...And what happens when we no longer need cows? It's not going to be happy fun time for the species, because as soon as there's not a reason to breed them then we'll have a few cows kicking around in zoos and that's it. Good for the environment, possibly, but bad for the species.

Do you think they are having fun now? They are bred to be eaten, if we don't need them we'll stop breeding them.

A lot of them are bread for milk too... (Whether they're having fun is another question, the ones that are allowed to graze outside probably are, the ones that never see the light of day probably aren't).

Re: Google's Sergey Brin explains why he paid $330,000 for lab burger

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe this is not the objective, rather having a more efficient way to produce meat, you're taking out of the equation the farm, meaning less space used, maybe healthier meat (without all the antibiotics and less fat) from one cow you can produce 10 tons of meat without all the space needed not only to raise the cows, but to grow their food, the lab can also be closer to consumers having obvious implications on that.

Well, if efficiency is the endgoal here, than bean cultivation seems way more logical answere to beef alternatives than fake meat. You basically take the the food you would otherwice feed your cows, stew it together with some saffran and beet juice (the same colorants as for the fake meat) and you have your economy-burger. No intermediate step which takes 10 times the space of a traditional meat-farm, no anti-biotics…

Because that economy-burger you talk about will not taste like meat. Artificial-meat will, sooner or later.
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