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Re: Webflow (YC S13) Lets You Design Responsive Websites Visually, Publish Instantly

#43

Post by PommeDeTerre »

pbreit wrote: post #32
WasimBhai wrote: post #25

Vlad, Webflow says my browser screen is too small. I am using Firefox 22.0.

Chrome recommended. Widen your browser window and the message should go away.

Isn't the whole point of "responsive web design" to provide a good experience across a wide range of browsers and devices, without the user having to do anything special?

Having to switch browsers (from a very modern version of a very capable and very widely used browser, no less!) and having to manually resize the browser window merely to view the site is not what I'd consider a good experience in any way.

The "native cryptography support" error that some of us are getting with quite modern browsers isn't very encouraging, either.

These techniques are forcing the user to be responsive to the website's deficiencies, rather than the website being properly responsive to the capabilities of the user's browser and device. This is "responsiveness" in all the wrong ways.

Re: Webflow (YC S13) Lets You Design Responsive Websites Visually, Publish Instantly

#46

Post by brryant »

dhruvbhatia wrote: post #44

Congrats on the launch guys- looks like a solid product! Can you discuss the tech stack you used for those of is that are curious?

Certainly: a node + mongo stack, and the designer was built using knockout.js

Re: Webflow (YC S13) Lets You Design Responsive Websites Visually, Publish Instantly

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Post by tzury »

PommeDeTerre wrote: post #43
pbreit wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome recommended. Widen your browser window and the message should go away.

Isn't the whole point of "responsive web design" to provide a good experience across a wide range of browsers and devices, without the user having to do anything special? Having to switch browsers (from a very modern version of a very capable and very widely used browser, no less!) and having to manually resize the browser window merely to view the site is not what I'd consider a good experience in any way. The "nati…

Well, the output is responsive indeed.

The build tool needs more screen space than iPhone/Android can offer (left and right columns + content editing in the middle), hence it make a perfect sense to "force" you to use a larger viewport.

Re: Webflow (YC S13) Lets You Design Responsive Websites Visually, Publish Instantly

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Post by joeblau »

I love the design and the concept of the site as well as others in this space like jetstrap, easel, and divshot. To be honest, I've tried a few of these offerings and as a web developer this is not what I want, I'm looking for two things:

1. An editor like the one Bret Victor talked about in his "Inventing on Principle" talk[1]. I want to edit HTML and CSS and see updates reflected in real time[2].

2. A way to hook this into a DVCS (Or better yet, a desktop application/desktop plugin). My development workflow relies heavily on Git and I don't think I'm going to download a zip payload and extract it every time I need to do a commit.

[1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PUv...

[2] - http://livecoding.io/

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